skillyillian's review against another edition
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
1.0
jesus h christ this book had me shaking my head the entire time I read it. Spoilers ahead 🤦🏻♀️
WHY are we letting minors into an "arcade" with poker tables, cigar smoking, and a full BAR???? Who is going in there to bet fancy jeeps and condos?!? That's the least of the logic problems here. It's like grown-ups just don't exist in this story hardly at all. A bartender lets Nora actually sit at the bar and talk to her after calling her out for being underage. Why? That's how you lose your licensing and your job, bud. There's a bunch more instances where it makes ZERO sense for a teenager to be where she is or doing what she's doing but it just happens anyway bc why not 🤷🏻♀️
This entire story could've been moved ahead by six or seven years with Nora in college and it would've solved half the logic problems here and made Patch a thousand times LESS creepy. I don't mind a fantasy genre age gap, I read Sarah j Maas ffs but patch has hypothetically been around since ADAM AND EVE, but falls in love with a 16/17 year old?????? WHY????? put her in college. They can still be lab partners and she can still be friends with vee and whatever else but for fucks sake she didn't need to be an actual CHILD with someone who's been around SINCE THE CREATION OF MANKIND. half the lore here didn't make sense. The author talked about stuff from the bible that she treated as fact but was very easily disproved with literally a single Google search. I broke her lore in less than three minutes.
The internalized misogyny runs rampant here. Nora's arch nemesis of sorts is, naturally, the cheerleader who "wears half a bottle of foundation" and when she's first introduced it's bc she's mockingly offering for Nora's best friend Vee to model bikinis at her mom's JCP bc she can't find enough plus size lingerie models. WHY ARE YOU HIRING MINORS TO MODEL LINGERIE AND BIKINIS, MA'AM?????? USE A FUCKING MANNEQUIN. gross gross gross. Anyway Marcie (the nemesis) uses Vee's size to bully her, and they go back and forth being catty about weight and size and Nora or Vee tells Marcie she has chocolate ex-lax stuck in her teeth. I cringed viscerally. holy shit oh my god what the hell????? jfc dude can we please move past this trope already??? It's giving "pick me", it's giving "I'm not like the other girls", it's giving "i'm the real victim here" and it's so tired. Stop acting like this shit is normal and okay, no one needs to think talking to each other like this is how it's meant to be.
Absolutely NOTHING of note happens for the first probably 85-90% of this book. You could cut out almost everything from the first probably 26 chapters and still be more or less caught up when the climax of the book hits. I finished this to see if it would get any better and it did not. The final fight made zero sense, stuff that was revealed made me even MORE grossed out with Patch than I was before, and all of the rules on angel powers and shit that had been set up were immediately chucked out the window. Like, at the speed of light, gone. Fallen angels can't possess anyone except for the one time they can, and it's not that time, but Patch manages to do it anyway, just in time to stop Jules from shooting her. How convenient ✨
Anyway this just wasn't it. Patch grooms a minor and disrespects any actual boundaries she tries to set and it was all extremely romanticized in the name of "you said not to but I'm doing it anyway because I know you want it and just won't say it" and that's gross. Vee is an EXTREMELY bad friend and ignored Nora every time she needed help, including when Nora said Elliot attacked her on her front porch and then Vee was at a party with him 12 hours later and trying to get Nora to join them. Yikes. And the first time Nora goes out for the night Vee looks her over and says something like "boys like girls who actually look like girls" like.... What the fuck??? Hello??? Show me where Nora asked. Show me.
TL;DR: There are gaping flaws in the logic throughout the whole book. Problematic behavior is romanticized throughout. This book is meant for younger audiences and a lot of icky shit is justified that impressionable people just don't need to be reading about. It's fine to let men disrespect you and groom you because they're hot and moody, and if your best friend is a dickhead it's just tough love, right? Right?
As my bestie said, "it's giving 2008 self insert fanfic" and they were RIGHT.
Good hell idk how there are three more books after this. I can't even voice all of my frustration without just explaining the whole book. This review is so long and that's after I chopped a bunch of it out. Thank god I didn't read these in high school bc it would've wrecked me almost as bad as twilight did. Never again
WHY are we letting minors into an "arcade" with poker tables, cigar smoking, and a full BAR???? Who is going in there to bet fancy jeeps and condos?!? That's the least of the logic problems here. It's like grown-ups just don't exist in this story hardly at all. A bartender lets Nora actually sit at the bar and talk to her after calling her out for being underage. Why? That's how you lose your licensing and your job, bud. There's a bunch more instances where it makes ZERO sense for a teenager to be where she is or doing what she's doing but it just happens anyway bc why not 🤷🏻♀️
This entire story could've been moved ahead by six or seven years with Nora in college and it would've solved half the logic problems here and made Patch a thousand times LESS creepy. I don't mind a fantasy genre age gap, I read Sarah j Maas ffs but patch has hypothetically been around since ADAM AND EVE, but falls in love with a 16/17 year old?????? WHY????? put her in college. They can still be lab partners and she can still be friends with vee and whatever else but for fucks sake she didn't need to be an actual CHILD with someone who's been around SINCE THE CREATION OF MANKIND. half the lore here didn't make sense. The author talked about stuff from the bible that she treated as fact but was very easily disproved with literally a single Google search. I broke her lore in less than three minutes.
The internalized misogyny runs rampant here. Nora's arch nemesis of sorts is, naturally, the cheerleader who "wears half a bottle of foundation" and when she's first introduced it's bc she's mockingly offering for Nora's best friend Vee to model bikinis at her mom's JCP bc she can't find enough plus size lingerie models. WHY ARE YOU HIRING MINORS TO MODEL LINGERIE AND BIKINIS, MA'AM?????? USE A FUCKING MANNEQUIN. gross gross gross. Anyway Marcie (the nemesis) uses Vee's size to bully her, and they go back and forth being catty about weight and size and Nora or Vee tells Marcie she has chocolate ex-lax stuck in her teeth. I cringed viscerally. holy shit oh my god what the hell????? jfc dude can we please move past this trope already??? It's giving "pick me", it's giving "I'm not like the other girls", it's giving "i'm the real victim here" and it's so tired. Stop acting like this shit is normal and okay, no one needs to think talking to each other like this is how it's meant to be.
Absolutely NOTHING of note happens for the first probably 85-90% of this book. You could cut out almost everything from the first probably 26 chapters and still be more or less caught up when the climax of the book hits. I finished this to see if it would get any better and it did not. The final fight made zero sense, stuff that was revealed made me even MORE grossed out with Patch than I was before, and all of the rules on angel powers and shit that had been set up were immediately chucked out the window. Like, at the speed of light, gone. Fallen angels can't possess anyone except for the one time they can, and it's not that time, but Patch manages to do it anyway, just in time to stop Jules from shooting her. How convenient ✨
Anyway this just wasn't it. Patch grooms a minor and disrespects any actual boundaries she tries to set and it was all extremely romanticized in the name of "you said not to but I'm doing it anyway because I know you want it and just won't say it" and that's gross. Vee is an EXTREMELY bad friend and ignored Nora every time she needed help, including when Nora said Elliot attacked her on her front porch and then Vee was at a party with him 12 hours later and trying to get Nora to join them. Yikes. And the first time Nora goes out for the night Vee looks her over and says something like "boys like girls who actually look like girls" like.... What the fuck??? Hello??? Show me where Nora asked. Show me.
TL;DR: There are gaping flaws in the logic throughout the whole book. Problematic behavior is romanticized throughout. This book is meant for younger audiences and a lot of icky shit is justified that impressionable people just don't need to be reading about. It's fine to let men disrespect you and groom you because they're hot and moody, and if your best friend is a dickhead it's just tough love, right? Right?
As my bestie said, "it's giving 2008 self insert fanfic" and they were RIGHT.
Good hell idk how there are three more books after this. I can't even voice all of my frustration without just explaining the whole book. This review is so long and that's after I chopped a bunch of it out. Thank god I didn't read these in high school bc it would've wrecked me almost as bad as twilight did. Never again
Content Warnings
Graphic: Gaslighting, Murder, Body shaming, Suicide attempt, Car accident, Suicide, and Violence
Moderate: Gun violence, Bullying, Stalking, and Violence
Minor: Eating disorder
tonylovd's review
dark
mysterious
tense
slow-paced
2.0
not for me, very twilight-esque, if you're into that
Content Warnings
Graphic: Stalking and Toxic relationship
Moderate: Fatphobia and Death of parent
Minor: Eating disorder
trulydevious's review
mysterious
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
1.75
Content Warnings
Graphic: Abandonment, Death, and Violence
Moderate: Bullying, Body shaming, and Eating disorder
emilylovesgoodbooks's review against another edition
dark
mysterious
tense
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
3.5
Content Warnings
Graphic: Toxic relationship, Toxic friendship, and Stalking
Moderate: Murder, Death of parent, and Eating disorder
thecourtofreading's review
dark
mysterious
tense
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.75
"all this time i've hated myself for it. i thought i'd given it up for nothing. but if i hadn't fallen, i wouldn't have met you."
Content Warnings
Graphic: Toxic relationship
Moderate: Stalking and Death of parent
Minor: Eating disorder and Fatphobia
syrenhug's review against another edition
challenging
dark
mysterious
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
I read this book years ago and I remember liking it, but obviously, you revisit stuff and you don't always feel the same. It's part of growing.
Wildly enough, I still really like this book. I'm thinking about reading the whole series. Maybe.
Anyway here are my thoughts:
Not him gaslighting her lol
This book is so obviously not a romance. It's a warning, it's a red flag. Stalking, being touched without permission, and having someone continuously come on to you when you've expressed your discomfort, are all awful/gross violations. But, unfortunately, they are behaviors that are deemed (lightly) acceptable under the patriarchy. And young women have come to normalize and accept them as just part of being interested in men (because it's moreso men who are getting away with this stuff). And, in this case, Nora finds these red flags kind of attractive. She wants to know more. I've met people like this - usually, they have their own issues. I find that pitfall very interesting.
I love demon/angel/fallen angel stuff. It's always cool to get a perspective on vice/virtue that is rooted in religion (with a huge emphasis on Biblical knowledge). I enjoy how awful Patch is. But he's honest. Mostly. In the end, at least.
So I didn't enjoy this as a romance, I enjoyed this as a cautionary tale, something full of tropes, cliches, and teenage awkwardness. Also a cool plotline. It should have just been about that, honestly.
Wildly enough, I still really like this book. I'm thinking about reading the whole series. Maybe.
Anyway here are my thoughts:
Not him gaslighting her lol
This book is so obviously not a romance. It's a warning, it's a red flag. Stalking, being touched without permission, and having someone continuously come on to you when you've expressed your discomfort, are all awful/gross violations. But, unfortunately, they are behaviors that are deemed (lightly) acceptable under the patriarchy. And young women have come to normalize and accept them as just part of being interested in men (because it's moreso men who are getting away with this stuff). And, in this case, Nora finds these red flags kind of attractive. She wants to know more. I've met people like this - usually, they have their own issues. I find that pitfall very interesting.
I love demon/angel/fallen angel stuff. It's always cool to get a perspective on vice/virtue that is rooted in religion (with a huge emphasis on Biblical knowledge). I enjoy how awful Patch is. But he's honest. Mostly. In the end, at least.
So I didn't enjoy this as a romance, I enjoyed this as a cautionary tale, something full of tropes, cliches, and teenage awkwardness. Also a cool plotline. It should have just been about that, honestly.
Content Warnings
Moderate: Stalking and Toxic relationship
Minor: Death of parent, Eating disorder, and Fatphobia
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