freakysappho's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
3.75
the first part was. SO. Good. like amazing. following theo through the horrifying whirlwind of a thirteen year old's kid turned upside down; the apathy, the emptiness, the grief.. it was amazing. the city, vegas, back to the city; tartt's character work with hobie and boris especially i loveeeeed <3 basically every part up to when theo turns 26 years old. womp, womp
nice prose; although, perhaps blinded to it, i did notice that tartt used a lot of emdashes-- you know, like so-- and sentences run on, and on, and on like this; many semicolons; I do not recall this little, or perhaps massive and thus emphasized by this book's length, writing quirk in TSH, although i feel-- ha!-- terribly for her editor.
um. okay now the things i didn't like which were a lot. the entire second half of this book was lowkey a chore, moseying and meandering through theo's philosophical pinings. every single time theo pined for pippa was agonizing to read. pippa pippa pippa. Bitch you've seen her three times what's her favorite color. What's her favorite season? if there's one thing donna tartt cannot write it is a romance. like she cannot convince me a main character is in love or even unreasonably obsessed which i guess is what we were supposed to take away from that whole painful agonizing ordeal. this was the case in the secret history too. why i cannot say.
the ending reminded me of an essay i'd write for my art history class i took my freshman year where my professor would start her comments by saying Rory, I think this could use some work.. but it had a "happier" ending than TSH, i guess, so if you're in the market for that.. look here. i guess i just kind of hate "diary-style" endings to books but this book is middlemarch-ian in absolute length (though not in time covered) and i guess it had to end somewhere
yawn. snore.
i honestly don't think the length of this book was an issue but the post-childhood theo parts could have been sawed down Immensely. like there is no growth there and. he was so whiny and pathetic that i could not believe he was like, a successful salesman in any capacity, and i guess that's where i get finicky about the length. and i fuckig love a pathetic human being but he was just boring to read about, so realistic that i can see him sitting across from me in a diner. and it's like. whatever give me back henry from tsh.
but whatever i liked it enough. and i get that theo is not a perfect person but i really just disliked him as a human being . Anyway i could say a lot about this book but i'll end it here. long book gets long thoughts. Overall rating: meh
Graphic: Addiction, Violence, Death of parent, Suicidal thoughts, and Alcoholism
Moderate: Racial slurs and Car accident
venice_the_vampire's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.75
Graphic: Alcoholism, Murder, Drug abuse, and Death of parent
Moderate: Death, Car accident, Child abuse, Suicide attempt, and Mental illness
Minor: Abandonment
nils_0's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
4.0
Graphic: Suicidal thoughts, Blood, Death, Death of parent, Drug use, Animal cruelty, Drug abuse, Murder, Addiction, Alcohol, Cursing, Violence, Alcoholism, Grief, Gun violence, Toxic relationship, Car accident, and Toxic friendship
Minor: Panic attacks/disorders and Vomit
booksandboba's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
When I first read it, I loved it, loved the writing style and character development (it was my first or one of my first encounters with writing like this), really related to descriptions of anxiety and depression, considered it my favorite book. Read it a second time and started forming doubts, particularly with noticing issues of classism and racism. Read it a third time, this time annotating heavily for themes present throughout the book (question of fate vs free will, good vs bad and moral responsibility, depression and grief vs hope, art and its beauty and importance, friendship and love, impermanence vs permanence, time, life and death) and enjoyed doing that, but in doing so realized that the book really could have been edited better. I found the ending to be sloppy and not satisfying. And the way that blatant racism is used in the book (equating East Asian and especially Chinese culture and objects with cheapness) is just appalling.
And apparently it took 10 years or more to write this book, which either means that those choices were deliberate and well-thought out, choosing to only have people of color represented in minor roles mostly as working class serving the white upper class, choosing to use racist notions to make character points, or she somehow in all that time failed to consider these choices — why she might be making them, what they mean, what sort of impact they would have — despite the clear time and attention to detail given to making this book.
Spoiler
Maybe you can claim that Theo, as a character, is racist, and that it just adds to the long list of character flaws and why we can’t trust him as a reliable narrator etc., but we already have so many examples so why would this be necessary? The racism does not directly connect to a point that needs to made either for plot or theme as far as I can see, and even if Theo as a character is just racist, that still doesn’t explain why the only people of color we encounter are in working class positions, save maybe the two social workers. (And he can’t even remember the Korean woman’s name, and just has to mention that her breath smells like garlic?)Graphic: Alcohol, Alcoholism, Death, Racism, Suicidal thoughts, Violence, Vomit, Grief, Injury/Injury detail, Physical abuse, Racial slurs, Suicide attempt, Addiction, Blood, Death of parent, Mental illness, Murder, Cursing, Drug abuse, Drug use, and Gun violence
Moderate: Animal cruelty, Car accident, Classism, Infidelity, Panic attacks/disorders, and Homophobia
Minor: Pregnancy
rae_kjise's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Graphic: Racial slurs, Death, Physical abuse, Drug abuse, Mental illness, Drug use, Car accident, Blood, Alcoholism, Abandonment, Gun violence, Murder, Bullying, Suicide attempt, Panic attacks/disorders, Death of parent, Alcohol, and Addiction
calla_lily's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.25
Graphic: Alcoholism, Addiction, Violence, Death, Car accident, Suicidal thoughts, Mass/school shootings, Drug use, Drug abuse, Alcohol, and Death of parent
stevienielson's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
Graphic: Mental illness, Blood, Suicidal thoughts, Addiction, Violence, Death, Car accident, Alcoholism, Alcohol, Drug use, Drug abuse, Vomit, Sexism, Death of parent, Cursing, Sexual content, Panic attacks/disorders, Suicide attempt, Physical abuse, Bullying, Injury/Injury detail, Gun violence, and Grief
tuesdaydg's review against another edition
2.0
Spoiler
severe addiction to drugs and alcoholGraphic: Death of parent, Abandonment, Grief, Addiction, Drug use, Alcoholism, Vomit, and Drug abuse
Moderate: Emotional abuse, Murder, Panic attacks/disorders, Violence, Fire/Fire injury, Gun violence, Classism, Suicidal thoughts, and Domestic abuse
Minor: Car accident
ashleymg99's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? N/A
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.25
Spoiler
these points mimic the explosion that began our journey, often “dropping a bomb” on the reader - and often marks the death of a significant figure in Theo’s life. His Mother. Welty. His Father. Andy and Mr. Barbour. All these deaths are sudden, accidental, and tragic.Graphic: Suicide attempt, Drug use, Grief, Addiction, Death of parent, Drug abuse, Alcoholism, Mental illness, Death, and Toxic relationship
Moderate: Suicide, Car accident, Vomit, Suicidal thoughts, and Panic attacks/disorders
123urmom's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.0
Graphic: Alcoholism, Mass/school shootings, Addiction, Death of parent, Child abuse, Mental illness, Drug abuse, and Medical trauma
Moderate: Injury/Injury detail, Racial slurs, Domestic abuse, Misogyny, Vomit, Suicidal thoughts, and Car accident