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jadeyfish's review against another edition
dark
emotional
mysterious
sad
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.25
Content Warnings
Graphic: Animal cruelty, Animal death, and Death
Moderate: Child death
Minor: Child abuse and Drug use
joy_ong's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
emotional
mysterious
sad
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.25
Content Warnings
Graphic: Animal cruelty, Animal death, Child abuse, Child death, Confinement, Death, Domestic abuse, Emotional abuse, Miscarriage, Misogyny, Physical abuse, Toxic relationship, Violence, Blood, Grief, Death of parent, and Murder
annahsmallwood's review against another edition
dark
emotional
hopeful
mysterious
sad
tense
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
I couldn't put this book down. Every time I thought I knew what was going to happen, I was proven so incredibly wrong.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Animal cruelty, Animal death, Domestic abuse, Mental illness, Toxic relationship, Violence, and Schizophrenia/Psychosis
Moderate: Child abuse and Child death
bxnnny's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
mysterious
sad
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
another crazy ass book by catriona ward that i will be thinking about for a long time. if you've read the last house on needless street, you know how nutty her writing is, but it's such a ride. this book goes back and forth between the past and the present, slowly piecing everything together. it becomes pretty clear at a certain point the major, key details but how it all came to be might not be what you expect. i couldn't tear myself away from this one, i was just truly enthralled in this story. the ending will leave you much like how you might have felt at the end of inception. please keep in mind there are A LOT of heavy trigger warnings in this (mainly animal cruelty/abuse/death and domestic abuse but there's many more so please check them all). i likely wouldn't have read this if i didn't already know catriona ward's writing previously to prepare myself mentally or hadn't been so interested in the story to be willing to push through.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Addiction, Animal cruelty, Animal death, Child abuse, Child death, Confinement, Domestic abuse, Drug abuse, Emotional abuse, Infidelity, Miscarriage, Physical abuse, Self harm, Toxic relationship, Violence, Forced institutionalization, Trafficking, Suicide attempt, Schizophrenia/Psychosis , Pregnancy, and Gaslighting
jinjejik's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
mysterious
sad
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.0
I still don't know the purpose of the arrowwood chapters. they didn't add anything. I found them annoying and wanted 'em to be over to get back to the actual story. kept thinking I was missing something, that there was a deeper meaning, but no one online seems to have a better reading.
otherwise, the story had some interesting concepts and of course Ward's twists and turns. always like a book that keeps me wondering and guessing. I feel like the author really does not like dogs lol and i almost had to put the book down. it also has a v open ending, like in the middle of a scene.
notes/thoughts I took while reading:
they really got an MRI machine in the middle of the desert..
mia is experimenting on the dogs to remove bad/angry/vicious genes activated by suffering and terror.
I'm sure this is for Jack/whatever runs in their family to make them see the pale ones who make them do bad things. that is different from the dogs tho, how is that research supposed to translate?
what suffering has Jack/Callie endured to activate their genes? why only the oldest daughters? esp when Rob has endured significant suffering. I doubt the mad dogs have a supernatural element to their madness, at least it doesn't seem that way.
Rob and Jack's mom died when they were 4. was she sacrificed? did she have the ailment? it's weird she's from Britain, how will that play in? an English curse lol her being from a wealthy English family. I can't figure out the dad..seems like he's just a white American hippie? while Mia is Black from the South.
similar to the last house on needless street with family curses that make you hurt people. both books take place in US, but curses come from Europe (England and Italy). Last House takes place is wooded Washington, opposite from the California desert. same coast
"I dont know how to get out've situations I don't like."
all the shit about england was made up! Jack made up memories of mom. Falcon and Mia adopted them from psycho meth heads Lena/JACKlyn and Bert/ROBert. (we don't know how the twins ended up with the meth heads and I'm still unclear on why they wanted so many kids just to torture em..unless pale voices told them to??)
theory: they adopted the twins because of something in their blood, like the dogs
( WRONG! the twins were adopted first. Rob tried to kill Jack with a screwdriver and strangle Mia with wire...so Mia began experimenting on dogs in an attempt to "fix" / "save" / change the twins )
"I mistake intensity for passion"
Rob and Jack go from oneness and total understanding to basing life choices off of how much it will hurt the other. (we learn that this is intentional on Jack's part, her way of protecting Rob is to get Rob to leave)
I thought Jack was gonna be sacrificed, but I'm pretty sure she ODs. they still haven't explained why she couldn't leave sundial. (wrong again lol jack couldn't leave because the click stopped working on her)
they're both pregnant by Irving?? I should've seen that coming.
book starts off being mostly about Rob and Callie then becomes mostly about Rob and Jack.
Rob admits she'll continue to do drugs/heroin? while pregnant. (it's the only thing that helps since the click didn't work on her) the "puppy" farm was eventually taken over by drug dealers, that's where Pawel got the goods for him and Rob. I guess he'd had the click too.
pale Callie is real?! Rob had a miscarriage due to Jack beating her.
where does Rob get the money to buy truckloads of shit for Jack's baby?
jack gets one chapter like Marx got one chapter
Rob is dumb af to try to trick Callie..I don't understand why she wanted to lock callie in her room. I understand she's debating on whether or not to give her the last click.
after everything is out to Callie and she's locked Rob in her room:
pale Callie says "which one of them is she, Jack or Rob?" I don't get this. why does pale Callie visit but pale jack doesn't?
otherwise, the story had some interesting concepts and of course Ward's twists and turns. always like a book that keeps me wondering and guessing. I feel like the author really does not like dogs lol and i almost had to put the book down. it also has a v open ending, like in the middle of a scene.
notes/thoughts I took while reading:
mia is experimenting on the dogs to remove bad/angry/vicious genes activated by suffering and terror.
I'm sure this is for Jack/whatever runs in their family to make them see the pale ones who make them do bad things. that is different from the dogs tho, how is that research supposed to translate?
what suffering has Jack/Callie endured to activate their genes? why only the oldest daughters? esp when Rob has endured significant suffering. I doubt the mad dogs have a supernatural element to their madness, at least it doesn't seem that way.
Rob and Jack's mom died when they were 4. was she sacrificed? did she have the ailment? it's weird she's from Britain, how will that play in? an English curse lol her being from a wealthy English family. I can't figure out the dad..seems like he's just a white American hippie? while Mia is Black from the South.
similar to the last house on needless street with family curses that make you hurt people. both books take place in US, but curses come from Europe (England and Italy). Last House takes place is wooded Washington, opposite from the California desert. same coast
"I dont know how to get out've situations I don't like."
all the shit about england was made up! Jack made up memories of mom. Falcon and Mia adopted them from psycho meth heads Lena/JACKlyn and Bert/ROBert. (we don't know how the twins ended up with the meth heads and I'm still unclear on why they wanted so many kids just to torture em..unless pale voices told them to??)
theory: they adopted the twins because of something in their blood, like the dogs
( WRONG! the twins were adopted first. Rob tried to kill Jack with a screwdriver and strangle Mia with wire...so Mia began experimenting on dogs in an attempt to "fix" / "save" / change the twins )
"I mistake intensity for passion"
Rob and Jack go from oneness and total understanding to basing life choices off of how much it will hurt the other. (we learn that this is intentional on Jack's part, her way of protecting Rob is to get Rob to leave)
I thought Jack was gonna be sacrificed, but I'm pretty sure she ODs. they still haven't explained why she couldn't leave sundial. (wrong again lol jack couldn't leave because the click stopped working on her)
they're both pregnant by Irving?? I should've seen that coming.
book starts off being mostly about Rob and Callie then becomes mostly about Rob and Jack.
Rob admits she'll continue to do drugs/heroin? while pregnant. (it's the only thing that helps since the click didn't work on her) the "puppy" farm was eventually taken over by drug dealers, that's where Pawel got the goods for him and Rob. I guess he'd had the click too.
pale Callie is real?! Rob had a miscarriage due to Jack beating her.
where does Rob get the money to buy truckloads of shit for Jack's baby?
jack gets one chapter like Marx got one chapter
Rob is dumb af to try to trick Callie..I don't understand why she wanted to lock callie in her room. I understand she's debating on whether or not to give her the last click.
after everything is out to Callie and she's locked Rob in her room:
pale Callie says "which one of them is she, Jack or Rob?" I don't get this. why does pale Callie visit but pale jack doesn't?
Content Warnings
Graphic: Animal death, Child death, Death, Blood, and Murder
thegayestghost's review against another edition
dark
emotional
mysterious
sad
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Animal cruelty, Animal death, Child abuse, Child death, Domestic abuse, and Violence
Moderate: Addiction, Cursing, Death, Emotional abuse, Infidelity, Mental illness, Miscarriage, Toxic relationship, Blood, Vomit, Medical content, Kidnapping, Grief, Death of parent, Gaslighting, and Injury/Injury detail
kelseycanada's review against another edition
challenging
dark
emotional
mysterious
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
This book was slow at first m. After the plot became more clear I couldn’t stop reading it. One of my top reads of the year
Content Warnings
Graphic: Animal death, Child abuse, Child death, Death, Domestic abuse, and Death of parent
thetinybookworm's review against another edition
challenging
dark
emotional
mysterious
sad
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
The beginning really drew me in, but then the middle of the story (which is when you read about the back story and what happened in Sundial) felt a bit sluggish. There were times I was wondering why certain things were happening. Towards the end was when everything came together and I literally gasped when I realized what was going on. It wasn't the horror I was expecting, but in some ways, this was much worse.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Animal cruelty, Animal death, Domestic abuse, Emotional abuse, Death of parent, and Murder
Moderate: Child abuse and Child death
racl's review against another edition
challenging
dark
emotional
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.25
Heavy subject matter all around, but I really enjoyed the way the story unraveled, revealing the truth bit by bit in ways that never felt out of the blue. Every revelation feels right rather than done for shock value.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Animal cruelty, Animal death, Domestic abuse, Emotional abuse, Gore, Mental illness, Miscarriage, Blood, Grief, Medical trauma, Death of parent, and Gaslighting
Moderate: Child abuse, Child death, Confinement, Infidelity, Self harm, Suicidal thoughts, Pregnancy, and Abandonment
Minor: Drug abuse and Drug use
kamreadsandrecs's review against another edition
dark
mysterious
sad
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
So I picked this up because I needed a bit of a break from the Pink Carnation reread I was doing, and what better to cleanse my brain than a horror novel right? So I fed a handful of picks through a randomizer, and Sundial was the one that popped up, so I settled in and got started.
And did any of you know it was possible for horror to have layers? BECAUSE THIS BOOK HAS LAYERS. IT IS A VERITABLE LAYER CAKE OF HORRORS. AN ONION EVEN.
First layer - What it’s like being in an abusive relationship, and what it takes to survive in one, and then later, what it takes to escape from it.
Second layer - Learning that what you thought was your past, your history, was utterly untrue. This is utterly terrible because so much of what makes us who we are is our past. So if you find out that what you thought was your history is, in fact, untrue? That sort of thing is horrific - especially so when you learn that your ACTUAL history is nothing short of nightmarish.
Third layer - Learning that you were altered without your knowledge, and that it was done “for your benefit” and “for the benefit of the world.” First, imagine finding out that who you thought you are is NOT who you actually are, and then follow that up with the whammy of learning that you were ALTERED in order to, supposedly, keep yourself and everyone around you safe. Imagine not having this explained to you. Imagine not being ASKED if this is what you wanted. It was just DONE to you.
Fourth layer - Finding out that you may in fact be a monster - and that the monster inside of you might be coming out once more to destroy everything you love and care about.
Fifth layer - Looking at your own child, and wondering if the monster you harbored inside you is also in them, and that said monster is beginning to manifest.
When I finished this novel I kind of stared at the ceiling of my room because WHAT IN THE ACTUAL EVERLOVING FUCK? What makes this even more powerful is that the above layers of horror are also twined around themes of siblinghood and motherhood: how it’s possible to love, hate, and even fear your siblings and/or your parents, and how parents can love, hate, and fear their own children.. Most media portrays the sibling and parent/child dynamic as straightforward, but this story really tackled the complexities and nuances of those relationships.
So overall, this book is an amazing, nightmarish read. The slow reveal of the utter horror of the truth at the heart of the story, the peeling back of all those layers of history were immense fun, especially backed by the themes of siblinghood and parenthood that formed the thematic backbone of the story overall. The twists were great too: I didn’t see them coming, but they also made sense in the overall context of the story. This was absolutely the cleanse my brain needed, and I’m also going to have to shovel more of Ward’s books onto my TBR, because this was INCREDIBLE.
And did any of you know it was possible for horror to have layers? BECAUSE THIS BOOK HAS LAYERS. IT IS A VERITABLE LAYER CAKE OF HORRORS. AN ONION EVEN.
First layer - What it’s like being in an abusive relationship, and what it takes to survive in one, and then later, what it takes to escape from it.
Second layer - Learning that what you thought was your past, your history, was utterly untrue. This is utterly terrible because so much of what makes us who we are is our past. So if you find out that what you thought was your history is, in fact, untrue? That sort of thing is horrific - especially so when you learn that your ACTUAL history is nothing short of nightmarish.
Third layer - Learning that you were altered without your knowledge, and that it was done “for your benefit” and “for the benefit of the world.” First, imagine finding out that who you thought you are is NOT who you actually are, and then follow that up with the whammy of learning that you were ALTERED in order to, supposedly, keep yourself and everyone around you safe. Imagine not having this explained to you. Imagine not being ASKED if this is what you wanted. It was just DONE to you.
Fourth layer - Finding out that you may in fact be a monster - and that the monster inside of you might be coming out once more to destroy everything you love and care about.
Fifth layer - Looking at your own child, and wondering if the monster you harbored inside you is also in them, and that said monster is beginning to manifest.
When I finished this novel I kind of stared at the ceiling of my room because WHAT IN THE ACTUAL EVERLOVING FUCK? What makes this even more powerful is that the above layers of horror are also twined around themes of siblinghood and motherhood: how it’s possible to love, hate, and even fear your siblings and/or your parents, and how parents can love, hate, and fear their own children.. Most media portrays the sibling and parent/child dynamic as straightforward, but this story really tackled the complexities and nuances of those relationships.
So overall, this book is an amazing, nightmarish read. The slow reveal of the utter horror of the truth at the heart of the story, the peeling back of all those layers of history were immense fun, especially backed by the themes of siblinghood and parenthood that formed the thematic backbone of the story overall. The twists were great too: I didn’t see them coming, but they also made sense in the overall context of the story. This was absolutely the cleanse my brain needed, and I’m also going to have to shovel more of Ward’s books onto my TBR, because this was INCREDIBLE.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Animal cruelty, Animal death, Child abuse, Child death, Emotional abuse, Gore, Mental illness, Physical abuse, Blood, and Pregnancy