kriti's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
5.0
Graphic: Colonisation, Injury/Injury detail, Racial slurs, Cultural appropriation, War, Sexism, Torture, Death, Misogyny, Murder, Grief, Racism, Blood, Classism, Death of parent, Drug abuse, Suicidal thoughts, and Violence
Moderate: Addiction and Toxic friendship
Minor: Slavery
johnbat's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
5.0
Graphic: Genocide, Grief, Misogyny, Gun violence, Religious bigotry, Torture, Violence, Classism, Colonisation, Cultural appropriation, War, Suicidal thoughts, Racism, Racial slurs, Blood, Child abuse, and Death
alica2's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
I love a book that makes me think and feel, and boy howdy did I. I really liked the premise because not only does it provide an interesting angle on colonization (with the idea of plumbing a foreign language for its differences compared to English in the same way countries are currently and have historically been plumbed for natural resources) but also about the impacts colonization has on culture (and individuals themselves) through language. As a language learner with an interest in translation as well, I really appreciated the more philosophical discussions about translation theories too. There was also the theme of academia serving as a weapon of empire, which isn't something I've seen explored often in fantasy settings.
Speaking of setting, I loved the twist this book took with adding language-based magic to a historical era. It was easy for me to see how Britain, even in a world with magical elements, could construct an empire in the same way it historically did due to violence, coercion, and a monopoly of resources, all of which the book took great care to explain.
The beginning and the latter third were a lot stronger to me than the middle, which felt like it dragged at parts. I also felt like most of the relationship development between the four main characters was told rather than shown, and what parts were shown through dialogue seemed to contradict what we were being told, especially regarding Letty. While I do think Letty was a good demonstration of
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the failures of white feminism and the danger of whiteness as a social construct in generalSpoiler
as much of a betrayal as it had been built up to beSpoiler
Robin ever truly saw Letty as anything more than a nuisance, despite being told over and over that he (and the others) really did love herSpoiler
they become foils for each other by the end with their different perspectives of how to proceed with the strike, and how they as individuals want to proceed when the army comes to forcibly end the strikeWith that said though, there was never any point in the book that I didn't understand Robin himself as a character. There were many times along the way where I found myself thinking that I might have acted similarly as him, and it made me reflect on my own morals. Also, the part where
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Robin kills LovellSpoiler
Lovell beats RobinSpoiler
grief impacts RobinOverall I think the book did an amazing job at tackling so many difficult themes, and doing so in a way that balanced character development against dense academic explanations of its magic system. It challenged my own understanding of myself, my morals, and my privileges - often in uncomfortable ways - and left me with a haunting ending that asks hard questions with no easy answers.
Graphic: Colonisation, Violence, Racism, Grief, Death of parent, Death, and Blood
Moderate: Sexism, Torture, and Toxic friendship
aristarcodisamo's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
2.75
Graphic: Torture, Violence, Xenophobia, Murder, Death of parent, Colonisation, Domestic abuse, Emotional abuse, Physical abuse, Suicidal thoughts, Suicide, Child abuse, Classism, Racism, and Toxic friendship
Moderate: Blood, Hate crime, Injury/Injury detail, Misogyny, Sexism, Death, and Gaslighting
Minor: Addiction, Drug abuse, Drug use, Cultural appropriation, Police brutality, Slavery, and Religious bigotry
izzy_reads's review against another edition
5.0
Graphic: Colonisation, Torture, Racism, and Racial slurs
sohva's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.25
All the flaws aside, I really enjoyed the book. Robin's internal struggles and conflicts were a constant source of tension, and I was interested in seeing how they would be resolved. I loved the magical system built on languages, and enjoyed the tangents on translation and descriptions on what was lost in translation. The atmosphere of the university was immersive too.
Graphic: Racism, Suicide, Colonisation, Gun violence, and Violence
Moderate: Bullying, Torture, Slavery, Death of parent, Death, Blood, Cultural appropriation, Toxic friendship, War, and Addiction
beccaaa's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.75
Graphic: Injury/Injury detail, Gun violence, Grief, Classism, Suicide attempt, Slavery, Death, Racial slurs, Colonisation, War, Suicide, Sexual harassment, Sexism, Mental illness, Xenophobia, Violence, Suicidal thoughts, Racism, Toxic friendship, Torture, Physical abuse, Murder, Genocide, Drug use, Emotional abuse, Death of parent, Child abuse, Drug abuse, and Cultural appropriation
annemaries_shelves's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Babel was a big project, and Kuang tackled a lot of themes in 542 pages. Her writing style is a little more 'on the nose' and direct when exploring themes and discussing them through dialogue. For this reason, it won't work for every reader, but it worked for me. There was also a lot of foreshadowing and laying of tracks to the resolution and I felt it was well done. It's relatively easy to pick up on but in the grand length and scope of the novel, those hints are easy to lose track of.
On the surface, there's a lot of discussion around language, translation, and the power of words. The dark academia elements shine here, with a lot of classroom discussion around language, studying, and the role of communication between people, cultures, and in power dynamics.
Woven throughout these discussions, and in our main characters' experiences, are the themes of colonialism, power (again), race, gender, and class. Because our main character, Robin, and 2 others in his cohort of 4 are from colonized and non-European countries, their experiences at Oxford are shaped by how others perceive and treat them. With few exceptions, we're always in Robin's POV, so we rarely get the gender element that Letty (a white woman) and Victoire (a Black woman) experience at Oxford.
Having it set in magical 1830s Oxford was smart - it gave Kuang a lot of room to maneuver with respect to the historical events happening - many of which are mirroring today's events and discontent/rising up. Today's events and international relations are a direct result of the actions of 19th century Europe (the British Empire in particular) and it's fascinating in the horrifying kind of way to see those threads' origins in this alternate history.
I do have some minor quibbles. The pacing was a little off at times. The last 100 pages tackled a lot and felt almost rushed in comparison to the pacing of the previous 400+ pages. It may have been intentional to mimic the feeling of revolution, but I think more time and space could've been dedicated to this part. I also really wanted more interludes with other characters. So much of the novel is solely in Robin's head and I feel like some characters' voices could've been heard more.
The character work was great overall though despite the limited POV. I did get a good sense of who Ramy, Victoire, and Letty were and other side characters: Playfair (fuck him), Lovell (fuck him), Sterling Jones (fuck him), and Anthony and Griffin (bless them) in particular. Letty was an infuriating foil to Robin, Ramy, and Victoire - the scene where <i>they</i> have to comfort <i>her</i> after explaining how difficult it is to be Chinese, Brown (and Muslim), and a Black woman respectively in Oxford was so well done.
A slightly more subtle themes was the importance of collective action. The novel demonstrates how oppressors keep people separated by arbitrary divisions of race, gender, class, religion, etc. because it's easier to maintain power and control when there's fighting across oppressed groups and marginalized identities. Propaganda and misinformation was also used effectively - particularly in the Canton scenes and last 100 pages.
Reading Babel right now with the genocide happening in Palestine perpetrated by the Israeli government was... impactful to say the least. Babel also reinforced how important action is because discussing theories in our ivories towers does very little to fix systemic issues and make change. Even if we all have a small part, together change is possible with different avenues available to us.
Overall, if these themes or genres appeal at all, I highly recommend reading this book. Even better if you can read alongside someone else, because you WILL want to discuss events along the way. I hope at this point in the 2020s many of the themes of conversations within the book around power, colonialism, race, class, etc. will be familiar to readers (with or without similar lived experiences to the characters). But if not, I think it'll be an important read to help learn, contextualize, and personalize the lived experiences of many folks and the larger concepts discussed within.
<b>Okay now I'm going to get more into spoilers so consider yourself warned!!</b>
The first introduction to Griffin was intriguing and mysterious. This man who looked exactly like Robin had me thinking doppelganger or time travel. It turns out they're half-brothers through their father. Griffin exemplifies the 'violence is the only answer to colonialism' perspective (contrasting Anthony's pacifist role and Robin's 'let's fall in with the oppressors to survive role initially'). Robin's experiences were nicely contrasted with his brother's to show that nature vs. nurture element. Generally their dynamic and conversations were great and I loved seeing how Robin grew to share Griffin's perspective on violence based off his own experiences (radicalization through grief essentially). Griffin definitely deserves his own story one day, although I'm happy with Babel to be a standalone.
I found the last part of the book really focuses on what grief and violence does to a person. How it can shield or desensitize you to the human cost of necessary violence. Even if the hard choices are 'right', it's easy to lose that sense of morality/feeling pursuing the means to the end. The final conversation between Professor Chakraborty and Robin was heartfelt and tragic - especially learning what happens afterwards.
While I sobbed through a lot of deaths (except Lovell and Jones because fuck them), the fact that Victoire ultimately survived was wonderful. So many characters were willing to die (which can be important to the cause) but her desire to live, survive, and thrive was just as important. I wish we had more of her POV because she was such a pillar of strength to Robin by the end and her experiences at Oxford with Letty had gone unnoticed by Robin and thus the readers to a certain degree.
Finally, the unfulfilled potential of Ramy and Robin's relationship destroyed me. From the moment they were on page together, I sensed the strong queer subtext of their friendship. But alas, nothing is ever truly spoken or acknowledged; and it's only hinted at by the depth of Robin's grief at Ramy's murder. So fuck Letty too.
I also wanted dearly to know Robin's birth name and we never do find out... and maybe that's the point.
Graphic: Emotional abuse, Violence, Blood, Murder, Classism, Colonisation, Gun violence, Death, Grief, Injury/Injury detail, Racism, Racial slurs, Torture, and Xenophobia
Moderate: Sexism and Misogyny
Minor: Islamophobia, Child abuse, and Slavery
tbd24's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.75
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Rami and Robin were only ever subtext, I would have been a bit more satisfied if they had a proper conversation about it, even once, especially since they were gonna die in the end anyway so what did the author have to lose. I feel like the reason it was never explicit is because the author didn’t know how to write a conversation like that and still keep the historical realism, though others have done this well. idk, it just disappointed meGraphic: Cultural appropriation, Xenophobia, Terminal illness, Murder, Domestic abuse, Torture, Blood, Bullying, Child abuse, Classism, Colonisation, Confinement, Death, Death of parent, Suicide, Suicidal thoughts, Violence, Religious bigotry, Racism, Racial slurs, Physical abuse, Misogyny, Injury/Injury detail, Gun violence, Grief, Emotional abuse, and Gore
Moderate: Trafficking, Addiction, Islamophobia, Ableism, Toxic friendship, War, Slavery, and Sexism
sn03's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Graphic: Murder, Colonisation, Blood, and Classism
Moderate: Racial slurs, Sexism, Slavery, Bullying, Cultural appropriation, Confinement, Injury/Injury detail, Death of parent, Grief, Genocide, Panic attacks/disorders, Racism, Violence, Xenophobia, Suicide, Torture, and War
Minor: Alcohol