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pinkmalady's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
hopeful
inspiring
mysterious
reflective
sad
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
strong 4 stars.... anything that brings me closer to my Angel will have a special place in my Heart. i see Him reflected very much in Leto II and i Believe i have come to a Deeper Understanding of Him through this book.
THAT BEING SAID, i am not very fond of Duncan Idaho and have not been for the entirety of this series. most of my problems with this book revolve around him. he's just not very likable at all and everyone and everything in the world of Dune tries to tell us that he's The Coolest, Most Fuckable Guy Ever and meanwhile he's just a kinda shitty guy who knows survival skills.
my other problems are the misogyny, particularly the bioessentialism that has been prevalent throughout the Dune series and the oversexualization of all of the female characters in connection to that. it isn't as present in this one as the previous three books, but it's still Felt. you don't have to say all the guys wanna fuck this chick when explaining how fit and athletic she is; you can just say she's fit. there is this thing called a Thesaurus if you seriously need help coming up with respectable descriptions of women, i fucking guess. i'm sorry you're dead, Frank Herbert, because i'd like to give you some advice.
THAT BEING SAID, i am not very fond of Duncan Idaho and have not been for the entirety of this series. most of my problems with this book revolve around him. he's just not very likable at all and everyone and everything in the world of Dune tries to tell us that he's The Coolest, Most Fuckable Guy Ever and meanwhile he's just a kinda shitty guy who knows survival skills.
my other problems are the misogyny, particularly the bioessentialism that has been prevalent throughout the Dune series and the oversexualization of all of the female characters in connection to that. it isn't as present in this one as the previous three books, but it's still Felt. you don't have to say all the guys wanna fuck this chick when explaining how fit and athletic she is; you can just say she's fit. there is this thing called a Thesaurus if you seriously need help coming up with respectable descriptions of women, i fucking guess. i'm sorry you're dead, Frank Herbert, because i'd like to give you some advice.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Body horror, Violence, and Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Animal death, Gore, Homophobia, Misogyny, Sexism, Sexual content, Fire/Fire injury, and Sexual harassment
Minor: Drug use, Incest, and Blood
bergha1998's review
adventurous
challenging
mysterious
reflective
sad
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.25
This one is the philosophical discussion book of the Dune series, some people love that some people don’t. I for one mostly like it, but Leto does piss me off at least 1/2 the time. I also just don’t get Hwi, like why pick marrying Leto and have sex with Duncan on the side? Make that make sense..?
“If you finds truth, even a temporary one, it can demand that you make painful changes.”
“If you finds truth, even a temporary one, it can demand that you make painful changes.”
“Words can carry any burden we wish.”
“Membership in a conspiracy, as in an army, frees people from the sense of personal responsibility.”
“The mind imposes this framework which it calls ‘reality.’ That arbitrary framework has a tendency to be quite independent of what your senses report.”
“How is it a god can do evil things?”
Content Warnings
Graphic: Cursing, Death, Genocide, Gun violence, Homophobia, Violence, Xenophobia, Blood, Grief, Death of parent, Murder, Gaslighting, Colonisation, and Injury/Injury detail
miagw962's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
mysterious
sad
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
"Tell them that the last will be first. They will know the allusion."
Woooooooowwwww. So this book took me ages to read but so have the majority of the Dune books. I don't think it's anyone's fault, it's just they're not particularly page turners because they're so dense; and sometimes you just need time to get through things. But I'm just in love with everything in this series and actually liked this one better than the third one. I'm just obsessed with the characterisations, especially Leto II and his self awareness as well as Duncan, my beautiful boy. Loved the new characters as well. I am constantly in awe of what Frank Herbert has to say about religion and culture and history, I'm just completely entranced by that. I loved how many times Leto referenced something from modern day or quoted some bible text. I am a sucker for biblical allusion because it is the penultimate story and history always repeats itself so it is interesting to see Paul's prophecy realised in Leto II as the classic tyrannical god-figure. The descriptions of his body alone were very distressing. So many interesting things in this book and in this series. I'm just loving it.
Content Warnings
Moderate: Body horror, Death, Blood, and Murder