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rheagoveas's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
emotional
reflective
sad
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.5
Content Warnings
Graphic: Blood and Murder
just_one_more_paige's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
reflective
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
4.0
I hadn’t heard of this until a few months ago when I randomly came across it on NetGalley. It was the title and cover combination that really caught my attention. Then I read it was about a pirate queen?! And there was no going back. (Also, note: Libro.fm offered it as an ALC a month or so ago and honestly, I loved having both the ebook and audiobook while reading.)
When Shek Yeung’s husband is killed in a battle, she takes immediate action, marrying his second in command (with the promise of bearing him a child, a son, to be his heir, despite having thought herself past the time in her life), in order to maintain her power and position within the fleet. But even with that quick thinking, the fleet remains on the edge of disaster in the face of myriad outside threats. Shek Yeung must navigate through a Chinese Emperor who seeks to eradicate all piracy in the most brutal manner, European powers who are tired of losing resources to the pirates, and an inter-fleet alliance that is shaky at best. Plus, as she faces the vastly different challenges of new motherhood, she begins to question what price she is actually willing to pay to retain control and leadership.
I am not sure why, but I thought there was going to be magic in this story…and there is not. I want to set that out to start, as, since I didn’t know where that impression came form personally, maybe other people are thinking that too. That has no bearing on my enjoyment of the overall reading experience whatsoever, I just felt it necessary to clarify. I will say though, there is a definite vibe that supernatural forces *could* be in play, through fate and fortune-telling and the influence of gods (similar to books like The Fortunes of Jaded Women, The Last Tale of the Flower Bride, The Cloisters, Plain Bad Heroines, etc.). So, it kind of reads like a magical historical fiction in vibe, if not in actuality. And that’s a style I can get behind.
Plot-wise, this was spectacularly written and paced. There was, absolutely, all the ruthlessness and violence one would expect from a novel about pirates, but as it was sprinkled in with stories about Ma Zhou and mythology and beliefs around her godhood, that was balanced out in a way that made it feel less intense or overwhelming. This was aided by the background on Shek Yeung’s life that was developed as the story went, giving us context not only about her own journey to piracy, but for the greater world within which her story takes place. It was tragic, as I believe all “I didn’t set out to become a pirate, but ended up here anyways” tales must be, compounded by her role as a female during this historical time period in Chinese history (but also, as a female in any time period ever, if we’re being honest). Getting to experience the story from her perspective, her own decisions, and with insight into her own thought processes and feelings, was exactly what I wanted. Finally, in regards to the plot, I would be remiss if I didn’t’ acknowledge how wonderful the complexity of the political machinations and power maneuvering were. I always love when those aspects are done with the kind of deftness that Chang-Eppig had here.
A few final thoughts. First, I was thrilled to hear that Emily Woo Zeller was narrating – I enjoy her voice talents and this was no exception. I thought it was great, the way Chang-Eppig showed how mythology and folklore take on a life of their own depending on the teller, and how every story is just that because all tales grow and change in the telling. This was demonstrated both though the tales of Ma Zhou and in the ways Shek Yeung chose portray herself and her life.
Overall, what atmospheric and original historical fiction. It was swashbuckling and violent, but also culturally and politically nuanced. Perhaps a slightly slower read than the blurb might suggest, but once I adjusted, it was such a good reading/listening experience.
"Piracy was, more often than not, a matter of convincing the target of the futility of fighting back."
"Women's life stories were written by their men, messily, elegantly, or in the case of violent men, tersely. Now that Cheng Yat was dead, Shek Yeung finally had a turn at dictating the course of things. She might have been born thirty-one years ago, but her story was only now hers."
"But villains waited for no god..."
"There were many gods in Heaven, one for whatever a person lacked (after all, wasn't lack the foundation of being human?)..."
"'Why do you need all this power?' Wo-Yuet had asked her. So that I can have complete control, she should have answered. Because the moment a powerful woman loosened her grip on the reins, even a little, someone immediately tried to wrest those reins from her. This "someone" was usually a man who believed she should never have had them in the first place."
"...acts of disobedience quickly led to unrest, which led to violence, which had to be met in kind. There was no stability without violence, nor was there peace in instability. Where was the line between stability and tyranny?"
"They'd come together to stay alive, which was different from staying together to live."
"In the end, stories were not reality, could not be reality. The storyteller decided where to start the story and where to end it, which parts to sink into and which to skin over."
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death, Rape, Sexual assault, Violence, Blood, Trafficking, Murder, Pregnancy, and Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Slavery, Xenophobia, and Grief
Minor: Addiction, Torture, and Colonisation
angleslist's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
mysterious
reflective
tense
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death, Violence, Murder, Pregnancy, and Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Rape, Sexual assault, Sexual violence, and Toxic relationship
Minor: Islamophobia
deedireads's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.25
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TL;DR REVIEW:
Deep as the Sky, Red as the Sea is a lush, poignant dramatization of the life of legendary pirate queen Zheng Yi Sao. It’s very interior, more about her than her adventures. I liked it a lot.
For you if: You like quiet historical fiction about strong women steeped in folklore.
FULL REVIEW:
As soon as I heard about Deep as the Sky, Red as the Sea (two words: PIRATE QUEEN) I knew I had to read it. It turned out to be a different book than I expected (or was quite in the mood for), but I still ended up liking it a lot.
This book is a dramatization of the life of Shek Yeung (better known as Zheng Yi Sao), a woman who led a massive, legendary pirate confederation during the Qing Dynasty in the early 1800s. She’s has been called the most successful pirate in history (they even put her in one of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies). It starts when her husband, the former leader, is killed, and she very quickly moves to secure her leadership by marrying his chosen heir.
But this novel is much more of a character study than an adventure — it’s not about her conquests, it’s about her interiority throughout it all. Throughout the book, we see her fight to protect her fleet and her position — a struggle between survival and hope, ruthlessness and love, freedom and roots. It’s a fascinating exploration of how gender roles and power dynamics persist even in places where those things are already so different from the rest of the world.
I’d also add that I think “for fans of The Night Tiger” is pretty accurate — not for plot, but for vibes. This is billed as a fantasy, but I wouldn’t call it that. Maybe historical magical realism: the “magic” is more like folklore. Plus, it follows a more literary-fiction-eque approach.
Anyway, this was a lush, beautifully rendered, carefully imagined novel. As long as you don’t go in expecting a swashbuckling badass pirate adventure, I think you’ll like it a lot.
TL;DR REVIEW:
Deep as the Sky, Red as the Sea is a lush, poignant dramatization of the life of legendary pirate queen Zheng Yi Sao. It’s very interior, more about her than her adventures. I liked it a lot.
For you if: You like quiet historical fiction about strong women steeped in folklore.
FULL REVIEW:
As soon as I heard about Deep as the Sky, Red as the Sea (two words: PIRATE QUEEN) I knew I had to read it. It turned out to be a different book than I expected (or was quite in the mood for), but I still ended up liking it a lot.
This book is a dramatization of the life of Shek Yeung (better known as Zheng Yi Sao), a woman who led a massive, legendary pirate confederation during the Qing Dynasty in the early 1800s. She’s has been called the most successful pirate in history (they even put her in one of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies). It starts when her husband, the former leader, is killed, and she very quickly moves to secure her leadership by marrying his chosen heir.
But this novel is much more of a character study than an adventure — it’s not about her conquests, it’s about her interiority throughout it all. Throughout the book, we see her fight to protect her fleet and her position — a struggle between survival and hope, ruthlessness and love, freedom and roots. It’s a fascinating exploration of how gender roles and power dynamics persist even in places where those things are already so different from the rest of the world.
I’d also add that I think “for fans of The Night Tiger” is pretty accurate — not for plot, but for vibes. This is billed as a fantasy, but I wouldn’t call it that. Maybe historical magical realism: the “magic” is more like folklore. Plus, it follows a more literary-fiction-eque approach.
Anyway, this was a lush, beautifully rendered, carefully imagined novel. As long as you don’t go in expecting a swashbuckling badass pirate adventure, I think you’ll like it a lot.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Violence, Blood, Murder, and Pregnancy
Moderate: Rape
Minor: Sexual content
katiemack's review against another edition
adventurous
reflective
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
I received an eARC of this book from NetGalley and the publisher in exchange for an honest review.
This is less of a swashbuckling adventure and more of a political tale that questions social, cultural, and gender norms, which is fine! Just, you know, market it accordingly. Once I settled into that I really enjoyed the book. The way Shek Yueng's pragmatism and strength play out within the slow-growing conflicts work well here, and the historical context Rita Chang-Eppig establishes is rich and enhances the story.
Again, it has a marketing problem, so some readers may be disappointed. But if you enjoy historical fiction and don't mind a more subtle read then give this a try.
This is less of a swashbuckling adventure and more of a political tale that questions social, cultural, and gender norms, which is fine! Just, you know, market it accordingly. Once I settled into that I really enjoyed the book. The way Shek Yueng's pragmatism and strength play out within the slow-growing conflicts work well here, and the historical context Rita Chang-Eppig establishes is rich and enhances the story.
Again, it has a marketing problem, so some readers may be disappointed. But if you enjoy historical fiction and don't mind a more subtle read then give this a try.
Content Warnings
Moderate: Violence, Blood, Murder, and Pregnancy
gkaltam's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
reflective
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death and Murder
Moderate: Rape
alisonburnis's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
My first 5 star read of 2023! This book was phenomenal, somehow timeless and brilliant. Following a Chinese pirate queen, this is a story of adventure, politics, plotting, and the conflict of motherhood. Shek Yeung is newly widowed, her husband Cheng Yat murdered by the Portuguese. She has risen to command their fleet, but with his death, she seeks to consolidate her power and stick with the only part of her life she has known any power: being a pirate, and maintaining their alliances. She marries Cheung Po, her husband’s ward and heir, and steps into a new tier of intrigue.
This was so vivid and immersive. Skillfully told and full of compassionate adventure, even through the violence.
I received this ARC via NetGalley.
This was so vivid and immersive. Skillfully told and full of compassionate adventure, even through the violence.
I received this ARC via NetGalley.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Rape and Murder