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fifiaffie1's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Graphic: Alcoholism, Death, Suicide, Grief, and Toxic friendship
Moderate: Domestic abuse and Murder
Minor: Drug use, Gun violence, Panic attacks/disorders, Car accident, and Suicide attempt
songofachilleus's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
Graphic: Alcoholism, Homophobia, Incest, Suicide, Suicide attempt, Murder, Toxic friendship, and Alcohol
Moderate: Addiction, Cursing, Drug use, Panic attacks/disorders, Violence, Grief, Religious bigotry, and Classism
Minor: Domestic abuse, Misogyny, Rape, and Sexual content
1800_sera_'s review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.5
Graphic: Addiction, Alcoholism, Animal cruelty, Cursing, Drug abuse, Emotional abuse, Incest, Racial slurs, Racism, Suicide, Grief, Religious bigotry, Car accident, Suicide attempt, Toxic friendship, and Classism
lisa_m's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
The story gets told to us by Richard who is the new guy and through whom we get to know the other protagonists. The setting and the whole group of strange classics students is very intriguing and you just want to know more about them. But as the story continues their behaviour becomes stranger and stranger.
So much is happening that I don't even know how to properly summarise my thoughts on this book. I think the easiest would be to talk about each character individually:
- Bunny:
- Richard:
- Camilla and Charles:
The incestuous relationship between the twins was teased a couple of times but even though I was supicious of it I liked them too much to actually think it was happening. When they kissed in front of Richard I was very shocked. But even more so when Camilla tells him that she is scared of Charles and that he abuses her. I saw that coming even less with how close they seemed to be.
- Francis:
- Henry:
I'm also very curious if Henry would have continued killing if he hadn't died. I really think he would have. He said himself that he enjoyed it and he was the one doing the actual killing. Also even though he denies it I am convinced he tried to kill Charles too. Charles may have been a bit irrational but I think he was very justified and correct in being scared of Henry and what he might do to him.
Henry for a majority of the book had control over the group. He's the one who makes decision and tells them what to do. He tells Richard about everything. The biggest warning sign was when he poisoned his neighbors dogs to to try out the poison with which he wanted to kill Bunny. Thats psychopath 101
- Julian:
Okay now that we went through all the main characters let's move on to some theories and thoughts I had while reading.
2. I think it's so insane how pretty much the entire group is in some kind of big love triangle. Henry and Camilla, Camilla and Charles, Charles and Francis, Francis and Richard, Richard and Camilla. The only one uninvolved was Bunny and he would be SHOCKED if he ever found out about all this.
3. As much as I did not like Bunny, he had the only understandable reaction to murder. He found his best friends drenched in blood after having killed a man in their delirium. It makes sense that he cannot just move on.
4. I think we never got the full truth about what really happened during the Bacchanal. We only heard Henry's account of it and he clearly only told Richard what he wanted him to know. I wish we got different perspectives on it. I'm not sure I trust anything Henry is saying actually. The whole thing intruiges me but we never get any real answers.
I'm not sure if this is actually a review or just me rambling and venting my thoughts on this book but oh well. I had a couple of issue but all in all I understand why this book is seen as the classic example for Dark Acadmia. It's a bunch of rich, pretentious and educated people trying to rationalise murder. I don't even know what more to say. If you like Dark Academia you will probably like this.
Graphic: Addiction, Alcoholism, Death, Domestic abuse, Drug abuse, Drug use, Emotional abuse, Gore, Gun violence, Homophobia, Incest, Infidelity, Mental illness, Misogyny, Panic attacks/disorders, Physical abuse, Racial slurs, Racism, Self harm, Sexism, Suicidal thoughts, Violence, Xenophobia, Blood, Vomit, Antisemitism, Islamophobia, Medical content, Grief, Religious bigotry, Suicide attempt, Murder, Gaslighting, Toxic friendship, Alcohol, Injury/Injury detail, and Classism
Moderate: Animal cruelty, Animal death, Child abuse, Confinement, and Car accident
wooblatoober's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
i think i enjoyed reading each character so much because of their complexities, paired with richard’s very limited point of view—one that he (and the reader) doesn’t always realize is so limited. in fact, he doesn’t really every get to have all the information at any one time, illustrated by the hundreds of fan theories from people who have exactly the same amount of information that richard has. so you’re left to unravel characters’ motives and actions with the same amount of information richard has—again, not a lot—& left to understand only what he understands. tartt also doesn’t leave any loose ends—every detail it’s important, & serves to make the story seem more realistic. these things makes it more immersive—like the reader is living it, or hearing a story about a friend, someone they know, something that actually happened that the reader is helping to try to get to the bottom of. it involves the reader in a marvelous way. & this stupid fucking book has me saying prick ass words like ‘marvelous’
Graphic: Addiction, Alcoholism, Animal cruelty, Animal death, Body horror, Cursing, Death, Drug use, Gore, Gun violence, Homophobia, Incest, Misogyny, Sexism, Toxic relationship, Violence, Antisemitism, Grief, Murder, Toxic friendship, Alcohol, Injury/Injury detail, and Classism
Moderate: Sexual assault and Sexual content
Minor: Rape, Religious bigotry, Suicide attempt, and Outing
zoe_archambault's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.0
Graphic: Death, Gun violence, Vomit, Grief, Murder, Toxic friendship, and Alcohol
Moderate: Incest, Mental illness, Misogyny, Rape, and Sexual content
Minor: Suicide and Car accident
kitkattom10's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.75
This is close to a perfect book for me. To be honest, I'm not sure why I can't bring myself to give it 5 stars but I'm just stingy. A masterclass in building tension. Not an in your face, "this is a thriller!" tension, but a subtle bubbling under the surface tension. By the end I felt so worried for these characters even though from the start they show themselves to be morally bankrupt. Someone tell me why I cried for a character who I would absolutely have hated if I met him in real life.
At it's heart, this is a greek tragedy told through the eyes of a naive young man who becomes enraptured with the wealthy and hedonistic world of his fellow students.
A compelling, gripping, interesting read. I'll be thinking about this one for a while.
Graphic: Alcoholism, Death, Drug abuse, Drug use, Suicide, Murder, and Alcohol
Moderate: Addiction, Homophobia, Grief, and Toxic friendship
Minor: Incest
themeanfrench's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Graphic: Alcoholism, Death, Drug use, Emotional abuse, Incest, Mental illness, Misogyny, Sexism, Suicidal thoughts, Suicide, Toxic relationship, Violence, Dementia, Grief, Suicide attempt, Murder, Toxic friendship, and Alcohol
Moderate: Addiction, Homophobia, Panic attacks/disorders, Sexism, Antisemitism, Islamophobia, Medical content, Outing, Gaslighting, and Injury/Injury detail
bizzyizzybee's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
2.5
Graphic: Addiction, Alcoholism, Cursing, Death, Drug abuse, Drug use, Emotional abuse, Gun violence, Suicide, Toxic relationship, Blood, Grief, Suicide attempt, Murder, Toxic friendship, and Alcohol
Moderate: Incest, Misogyny, Panic attacks/disorders, Suicidal thoughts, Toxic relationship, Violence, Grief, Gaslighting, and Sexual harassment
Minor: Animal cruelty
mdwsn27's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
Graphic: Alcoholism, Animal cruelty, Death, Domestic abuse, Drug abuse, Emotional abuse, Gore, Homophobia, Incest, Mental illness, Misogyny, Panic attacks/disorders, Racial slurs, Racism, Rape, Self harm, Sexism, Suicidal thoughts, Toxic relationship, Violence, Blood, Vomit, Islamophobia, Grief, Stalking, Car accident, Murder, Outing, Gaslighting, and Toxic friendship