sidekicksam's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
I won't be giving a summary of the premise - we all know the story. I don't think I've ever written such an extensive brain dump before, but then again, American Psycho will evoke strong feelings. If you're planning on reading this, don't read on and just go ahead and read it. But beware of the trigger warnings because the violence and gore is everything you heard about and worse. Also: if you do read this in its entirety: thank you and I'm sorry for all the rambling.
Some random thoughts that have floated in and out of my mind when I just finished it:
- Is this how men feel when they read unhinged women books?
- I don't think I've ever had such physical reactions to reading passages in a book, ever.
- Is this the most fucked up thing I've ever read?
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(And I read the book with the underage gangbang and the ones about humans being bred and slaughtered for consumptionSpoiler
- Is this one of the best things I've ever read? Is it?
After sleeping on it, and letting it simmer for a bit (
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like Bateman did with the various women he atePat Bateman is a white, rich, and handsome man, but those who have it all and never have to worry a day in their life also bear a great deal of boredom and emptiness. We see it in the characters other than the protagonist of The Secret History, as well as the main character of My Year of Rest and Relaxation. For some reason, these people don't seem to be equipped to deal with the mundanity of the world. Of life.
Who would? If you don't cook a day in your life because going out to a different restaurant every night is something everyone in your social circle does, and if you can get cocaine as easily as a pack of gum in the supermarket, what else is special anymore? What do you have to make you feel something? Bear in mind that dysfunctional families that value appearances and out-shining each other over actual loving and caring relationships are the norm in the upper class, and it's no wonder our protagonist doesn't feel anything.
The ego-centric mindset of the characters in this book is so well written, I don’t think I’ve rolled my eyes even once. Despite having followed them on several nights out, dates and dinners, I have no real sense of who the characters besides Bateman actually were or did. I don’t think he did either. But then again, they also mistake each other for other people all the time too, and they all don't care about being mistaken for someone else either.
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I even wondered at times whether Bateman actually makes those confessions of being a murderer and torturer of women to his “friends”, or whether he imagines himself confessing it to them. The further I got into the book it became apparent that he did actually try to cross the boundaries of secrecy and recklessness, to the point where he is almost caught. The cop-chase scene is so intense he even dissociates for a bit which makes it even more intense.The consumer state-of-mind, with the (imagined?) competition for who has the best clothing, taste in women/restaurants/drugs, uses the proper skin care products and who takes care of their body best, is central to the book, and is what makes it such a relatable work of satire. I (obviously) can’t relate to Bateman’s homicidal tendencies, but I can sure understand why he’d be obsessed with having the fanciest business card or the newest of the new stuff.
And to just state the most insanely amazing thing about this book: I don’t think I’ve ever had any other feelings for a serial killer than pure loathing, but he’s so well written: you get what drives him to do it? He’s an absolute repugnant, foul, disgusting human being, but if you don’t have to worry a day in your life about money, retaining your job, or even getting caught, it's little wonder this is what money and power drives you to.
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I mean, isn't his behavior and lack of human emotion reminiscent of what Jeffrey Epstein, Harvey Weinstein, etc. etc. have done? No, they didn't murder, but they used people the same way Bateman did. If you want to compare him to serial killers, Jeffrey Dahmer comes closest, be it not for the fact that he wasn't a rich snob that got away with it all. Who knows who's out there being an ACTUAL Pat Bateman.It would have made him a better person if he decided to get a thrill or some feeling by helping in war zones or doing another extreme sport every day, but it wouldn’t have made him such a compelling character. (I hereby promise that if I ever get that filthy rich, I'll just buy libraries and drown myself in books rather than go down the Bateman road)
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And yet. There is also still a hint of doubt that it might all have just been an elaborate fantasy. There are some clues as to the guy who doesn’t believe he killed Paul because he had dinner with him the week before, the apartment that was suddenly cleaned out of all the bodies. But then again, there is that taxi driver who recognizes him from the posters... And the fact that the rich can also just use their money and influence to make things (disappearances, murders and other atrocities to people who no one cares about anyway (i.e. sex workers)) disappear (again: Epstein, Weinstein, Trump, etc. etc.). So many layers, theories, and mystery that still surrounds the guy after 400 pages. Brilliant.Graphic: Alcohol, Animal death, Blood, Body horror, Cannibalism, Gun violence, Animal cruelty, Classism, Confinement, Death, Hate crime, Domestic abuse, Drug use, Gore, Sexual violence, Murder, Misogyny, Physical abuse, Racism, Rape, Sexual assault, Sexual content, Torture, and Violence
froschgefuehle's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? N/A
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.0
Graphic: Sexism, Animal cruelty, Animal death, Body horror, Cannibalism, Child death, Cursing, Death, Domestic abuse, Drug use, Hate crime, Homophobia, Murder, Physical abuse, Racial slurs, Racism, Rape, Sexual assault, Sexual violence, Torture, and Violence
thereadingdude's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Graphic: Classism, Gun violence, Homophobia, Violence, Death, Hate crime, Racism, Sexual harassment, Murder, Racial slurs, Rape, Sexism, Sexual assault, Sexual content, Sexual violence, Torture, Alcoholism, Animal death, Blood, Child abuse, Child death, Cursing, Fire/Fire injury, Gore, Injury/Injury detail, Misogyny, Physical abuse, Animal cruelty, Cannibalism, Addiction, Alcohol, Body horror, Domestic abuse, Drug use, Drug abuse, and Emotional abuse
Minor: Abortion
krispiefries's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
2.0
Graphic: Addiction, Alcohol, Alcoholism, Animal cruelty, Animal death, Blood, Body horror, Bullying, Cannibalism, Car accident, Child abuse, Child death, Classism, Drug abuse, Gaslighting, Gore, Physical abuse, Death, Emotional abuse, Excrement, Gun violence, Misogyny, Sexism, Sexual harassment, Sexual violence, Torture, Violence, Vomit, Domestic abuse, Drug use, Homophobia, Kidnapping, Panic attacks/disorders, Racism, Racial slurs, Sexual assault, Sexual content, Infidelity, Murder, Rape, and Schizophrenia/Psychosis
jayvdw's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
2.5
First off, the book is very slow, especially in the beginning. It fits the theme and sets the book's tone, but it doesn't read nicely. The book has some big themes and criticisms about 1980s America, which is very interesting and insightful. Patricks focus on clothing, brand, music and materialism really sets a mood whilst reading and depth to the characters. BUT IT'S FUCKING BORING. Personally, I skipped most of these, the long lists, I understand why they are there and that Bret intentionally puts them in the book to be boring and bore the reader.
The book is super super gross and not at all for the faint of heart. The book goes into detail about the murders and sex. It is very unsettling and I sometimes strayed away from reading for a few hours after certain chapters.
My favorite part of the book is clearly a few chapters near the end.
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In these chapters we start the get clear indications that Patrick and thus the narration can't be trusted. I loved Chase, Manhatten chapter. The sudden switch from first person to third person in this chapter really showed me how psychotic Patrick is. This combined with the absurdity of the chapter really made me realize that Patrick is untrustworthy and made me question a lot of the things that happened in the book. This was supported by the idea that Patrick often says things about murder or rape, that the people around him just ignore. His trustworthiness is confirmed when his lawyer says to has had lunch with one of Patrick's victims.Overall, I think this book is very interesting and learnful. Even in the modern day a lot of the themes are still present or even worse. The book is however a very boring read or very gross most of the time, due to this I gave it a low rating, simply because I did not enjoy reading it for most of the book, I also feel like the book could have been half the size. The ending was a let down in my opinion and a bit too vague. It would have been better if the ending focussed more on the trustworthiness of Patrick.
Graphic: Drug use, Gore, Violence, Murder, Panic attacks/disorders, Rape, Sexism, Vomit, Alcohol, Body horror, Infidelity, Racism, Schizophrenia/Psychosis , Bullying, Cannibalism, Grief, Sexual violence, Torture, Toxic friendship, Animal cruelty, Animal death, Body shaming, Death of parent, Domestic abuse, Drug abuse, Gun violence, Injury/Injury detail, Medical content, Mental illness, Police brutality, Racial slurs, Sexual assault, Sexual harassment, Abortion, Child death, Physical abuse, Toxic relationship, Addiction, Blood, Child abuse, Cursing, Death, Emotional abuse, Fatphobia, Gaslighting, Hate crime, Homophobia, Kidnapping, Pregnancy, and Sexual content
This book is gross and very very explicit with sex, murder, rape and torture. Not only to men and women, but also animals and children.phibs's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.5
Although Ellis manages to deftly weave grim comedy throughout, his postmodernist critique remains explicitly crude and vile, leading the reader to question how necessary Ellis’ innumerable graphic depictions of wanton violence against women were to the narrative at large.
Director Mary Harron certainly cherrypicks the best of Ellis’ novel to adapt for cinema, leaving the novel little more than a compendium of desensitised butchery and $300 ceviches.
Graphic: Abortion, Addiction, Child death, Murder, Racial slurs, Racism, Schizophrenia/Psychosis , Body horror, Drug use, Infidelity, Injury/Injury detail, Islamophobia, Sexual violence, Cursing, Domestic abuse, Antisemitism, Blood, Gun violence, Hate crime, Homophobia, Body shaming, Cannibalism, Ableism, Adult/minor relationship, Alcohol, Alcoholism, Animal cruelty, Animal death, Death, Drug abuse, Misogyny, Rape, Classism, Violence, Excrement, Gore, Mental illness, Sexism, Sexual content, Torture, and Vomit
isusp_65's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.5
Graphic: Alcohol, Animal cruelty, Animal death, Classism, Domestic abuse, Drug abuse, Eating disorder, Emotional abuse, Gore, Hate crime, Homophobia, Infidelity, Mental illness, Physical abuse, Racial slurs, Schizophrenia/Psychosis , Sexism, Sexual assault, Torture, Violence, Xenophobia, Ableism, Addiction, Alcoholism, Body horror, Panic attacks/disorders, Sexual content, Sexual violence, Antisemitism, Blood, Cannibalism, Child abuse, Drug use, Injury/Injury detail, Lesbophobia, Medical content, Murder, Racism, Rape, and Sexual harassment
hollystopreading's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
Graphic: Child death, Sexual harassment, Injury/Injury detail, Physical abuse, Classism, Sexual violence, Racial slurs, Animal cruelty, Blood, Body horror, Homophobia, Gun violence, Cannibalism, Misogyny, Murder, Domestic abuse, and Fire/Fire injury
Moderate: Abortion, Addiction, Ableism, Alcoholism, and Alcohol
schlong01's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
2.75
It's a wonderful critique of businessman and capitalism in general with very many details woven into it. But those details often become dreadful as a whole chapter can be just Patrick's opinion on a newly released album or the things he bought yesterday. Although the author is a genius at writing in great detail, this often becomes his downfall, as he does not seem to know when to use said detailism.
Graphic: Sexual violence, Sexual assault, Homophobia, Fatphobia, Body shaming, Blood, Alcohol, Torture, Toxic relationship, Toxic friendship, Sexual harassment, Sexism, Bullying, Addiction, Violence, Vomit, Murder, Emotional abuse, Domestic abuse, Classism, Xenophobia, Cursing, Cannibalism, Eating disorder, Misogyny, Gun violence, Gaslighting, Child death, Antisemitism, Animal cruelty, Rape, Physical abuse, Islamophobia, Gore, Death, Medical content, Fire/Fire injury, Car accident, Alcoholism, and Animal death
addythebookbat's review against another edition
4.0
Graphic: Racism, Rape, Animal cruelty, Blood, Cannibalism, Child death, Body horror, Child abuse, Classism, Murder, Sexism, Torture, Death, Drug use, Infidelity, Racial slurs, Sexual assault, Sexual violence, Antisemitism, Gore, Gun violence, Schizophrenia/Psychosis , Sexual content, Domestic abuse, Drug abuse, Violence, Addiction, Alcohol, Cursing, Homophobia, Misogyny, and Physical abuse
Moderate: Abortion