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American Psycho by Bret Easton Ellis

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sidekicksam's review against another edition

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  • Strong character development? No
  • Loveable characters? No
  • Diverse cast of characters? No
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

5.0

Is evil something you are? Or is evil something you do?

I won't be giving a summary of the premise - we all know the story. I don't think I've ever written such an extensive brain dump before, but then again, American Psycho will evoke strong feelings. If you're planning on reading this, don't read on and just go ahead and read it. But beware of the trigger warnings because the violence and gore is everything you heard about and worse. Also: if you do read this in its entirety: thank you and I'm sorry for all the rambling.

Some random thoughts that have floated in and out of my mind when I just finished it:
- Is this how men feel when they read unhinged women books?
- I don't think I've ever had such physical reactions to reading passages in a book, ever.
- Is this the most fucked up thing I've ever read?
Spoiler(And I read the book with the underage gangbang and the ones about humans being bred and slaughtered for consumption
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- Is this one of the best things I've ever read? Is it?


After sleeping on it, and letting it simmer for a bit (
Spoilerlike Bateman did with the various women he ate
), I've come to the conclusion that it must be one of the best written books I've read in a while. It was slow and torturous, not just because of the heinous acts Bateman commits and their increasing frequency and intensity, but also just Bateman's personality and world we get to go into. 

Pat Bateman is a white, rich, and handsome man, but those who have it all and never have to worry a day in their life also bear a great deal of boredom and emptiness. We see it in the characters other than the protagonist of The Secret History, as well as the main character of My Year of Rest and Relaxation. For some reason, these people don't seem to be equipped to deal with the mundanity of the world. Of life.
 
Who would? If you don't cook a day in your life because going out to a different restaurant every night is something everyone in your social circle does, and if you can get cocaine as easily as a pack of gum in the supermarket, what else is special anymore? What do you have to make you feel something? Bear in mind that dysfunctional families that value appearances and out-shining each other over actual loving and caring relationships are the norm in the upper class, and it's no wonder our protagonist doesn't feel anything. 

The ego-centric mindset of the characters in this book is so well written, I don’t think I’ve rolled my eyes even once. Despite having followed them on several nights out, dates and dinners, I have no real sense of who the characters besides Bateman actually were or did. I don’t think he did either. But then again, they also mistake each other for other people all the time too, and they all don't care about being mistaken for someone else either.
SpoilerI even wondered at times whether Bateman actually makes those confessions of being a murderer and torturer of women to his “friends”, or whether he imagines himself confessing it to them. The further I got into the book it became apparent that he did actually try to cross the boundaries of secrecy and recklessness, to the point where he is almost caught. The cop-chase scene is so intense he even dissociates for a bit which makes it even more intense.


The consumer state-of-mind, with the (imagined?) competition for who has the best clothing, taste in women/restaurants/drugs, uses the proper skin care products and who takes care of their body best, is central to the book, and is what makes it such a relatable work of satire. I (obviously) can’t relate to Bateman’s homicidal tendencies, but I can sure understand why he’d be obsessed with having the fanciest business card or the newest of the new stuff. 

And to just state the most insanely amazing thing about this book: I don’t think I’ve ever had any other feelings for a serial killer than pure loathing, but he’s so well written: you get what drives him to do it? He’s an absolute repugnant, foul, disgusting human being, but if you don’t have to worry a day in your life about money, retaining your job, or even getting caught, it's little wonder this is what money and power drives you to.
SpoilerI mean, isn't his behavior and lack of human emotion reminiscent of what Jeffrey Epstein, Harvey Weinstein, etc. etc. have done? No, they didn't murder, but they used people the same way Bateman did. If you want to compare him to serial killers, Jeffrey Dahmer comes closest, be it not for the fact that he wasn't a rich snob that got away with it all. Who knows who's out there being an ACTUAL Pat Bateman.
 

It would have made him a better person if he decided to get a thrill or some feeling by helping in war zones or doing another extreme sport every day, but it wouldn’t have made him such a compelling character. (I hereby promise that if I ever get that filthy rich, I'll just buy libraries and drown myself in books rather than go down the Bateman road)

SpoilerAnd yet. There is also still a hint of doubt that it might all have just been an elaborate fantasy. There are some clues as to the guy who doesn’t believe he killed Paul because he had dinner with him the week before, the apartment that was suddenly cleaned out of all the bodies. But then again, there is that taxi driver who recognizes him from the posters... And the fact that the rich can also just use their money and influence to make things (disappearances, murders and other atrocities to people who no one cares about anyway (i.e. sex workers)) disappear (again: Epstein, Weinstein, Trump, etc. etc.). So many layers, theories, and mystery that still surrounds the guy after 400 pages. Brilliant.

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challenging dark funny tense medium-paced
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  • Loveable characters? No
  • Diverse cast of characters? No
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

5.0


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krispiefries's review against another edition

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dark tense slow-paced
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  • Loveable characters? No
  • Diverse cast of characters? No
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

2.0


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sarahmalopia's review against another edition

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dark reflective tense slow-paced
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  • Strong character development? No
  • Loveable characters? No
  • Diverse cast of characters? No
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.0


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scarletkeiller's review against another edition

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5.0

a truly nauseating read

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zakcebulski's review against another edition

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challenging dark mysterious medium-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? A mix
  • Strong character development? It's complicated
  • Loveable characters? No
  • Diverse cast of characters? No
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

3.0

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Hmmmmmmmmm.

Yeah, I don't know about this book.
Let me start off by saying that I think that this book was written exceedingly well, and, in fact his book is a very clever satire on the hyper-material focused lifestyle of New York Yuppie culture.

In this book we follow Patrick Bateman who is an investment banker, though funnily enough, we never actually see him doing any work.
Patrick is more worried about his outward physical appearance and getting reservations at all of the most hip locations in NYC.
Patrick is also, supposedly, a serial killer.
Patrick spends his time hyperfixating on his looks with lengthy diatribes pertaining to each piece of the suit- whom it was made by, and even the cost. Now, these sections, which often cover paragraphs and paragraphs can be drawling and sloggish, but, in essence that is the point.
 
The point is that Patrick and his friends are so obsessed with their appearances that they spout off the most nuanced detail in an effort to seem cultured (The Patty Winters Show was on...) and also, to give an air of superiority- we know about something that you can't understand.
But, it comes off as overly redundant and stupid because.... why would we care? It makes people look very silly in putting so much effort into knowing the minute of every single thing.
Going off of this there are several (and I mean several) times when Bateman is confused for another character because they are all described as the same fucking person. And, in essence, they all want to be the same person, which is insane to think about. I think that this plays into the criminal idea of "hiding in plain sight" which is not hard when you consider that there are no differences between dozens of affluent white men all striving to be the same idealized version of a Gordon Gekko "Greed is Good" type character while delving into the hedonistic vices of the 80s and early 90s.

A lot has been talked about this book's approach to sex and its very hyper- masculine tone. I can absolutely see how the subjugation and subservience of women can be offensive, I think that Ellison strikes a delicate balance in this book, albeit one that is still not fun to read.
Ellison's writing can absolutely come off as misogynistic when read through a totally genuine and played straight tone. However, I think that he is actually attempting to bring the readers in on the joke and poke fun at people who think and act like Bateman and his friends. I do not think that Ellison actually believes the shit that he writes about toward women in general, but, whether or not he succeeds in his subversive satire on the overtly masculine yuppie culture is up to the individual reader to decide.
I cannot, nor would I want to tell people who are offended by the overt misogynistic tones of Bateman and his friends that they are wrong or just don't understand. Because, at the end of the day, I think that that is the exact critique that Ellison is going for.

Now, on to the serial killer side of things. I think that Ellison writes Bateman to be a very Humbert Humbert style of character- i.e. one that is wholly unreliable and daydreams about committing heinous acts, while not actually doing them, meanwhile being totally capable of committing them. I for one do not believe that Bateman committed any of the heinous acts that he described in the book. I think that they were total fantasies. With that said, I do also believe that Bateman was/ is also totally capable of committing these crimes.
I truly think that he was just one step away from snapping and going on a murder spree that he described.
With all of that said, I also think that the graphic depictions of murders, rapes, necrophilia, animal abuse and body defilement are some of the most graphic and vile things that I have read in a very long time, and possibly ever. There were some parts of these descriptions where I had to lower the book and take the a breather before continuing.
I think that this is where the book started to lose me a bit. I know that the entire point- the emphasis- was in Bateman supposedly committing these abhorrent crimes and then on the next page describing some mundane facet of life pertaining to his attire or a restaurant or something... but, it just didn't work for me because I felt that the entire message was "you never know how well people are hiding behind a mask of sanity". But, Bateman isn't. Bateman is a prick throughout the book, and not one that I think is portrayed as believably sane, or not a colossal asshole. To me, it is entirely feasible that he is a serial killer who is just on the edge of murder.

Coming from a knowledge base of true crime studies there are many killers who when they are caught the general consensus is- "no way it could be _____!"
Bateman is not that. Bateman is a piece of shit who is the walking archetype of a person that is totally capable of committing crimes against those he sees as less than. 

Overall, I think that this book is a great and scathing criticism of consumeristic culture and material pursuits. 
I think that it does fall flat in terms of its portrayal of Bateman being a complete madman who is actually a horrific murderer. But, maybe that was the point- maybe Bateman thinks that he is pulling one over on us and the world that he inhabits, but I don't know. 

This is one of those books that I would have a son of a gun time recommending to anybody because of its subject matter. While I do think that the book is meant to be read as a non-serious and satirical take on the hypermasculinity of the 1980s Wall Street scene ala The Wolf of Wall Street, I cannot in good faith say that people who are offended or off put by this book are wrong. I think that this book rides a very very thin line between overtly satire and the real-life fantasies of people who do walk among us. I think that there is a very specific mindset one had to be in to read this book and not throw it across the room in disgust at the subject matter, and when you're in that mindset, I think that there are sections that do work well as poking fun at materialistic consumerism culture that was and is so prevalent in the USA as a symbol of "I am better than you". 

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challenging dark reflective tense medium-paced
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  • Strong character development? It's complicated
  • Loveable characters? It's complicated
  • Diverse cast of characters? No
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

5.0


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challenging dark funny tense medium-paced
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  • Strong character development? It's complicated
  • Loveable characters? No
  • Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

2.0

I’m hesitant to say I liked this book due to the graphic nature of it. Simultaneously well-written while also being some of the most degenerate shit I’ve read in my life 

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  • Strong character development? It's complicated
  • Loveable characters? No
  • Diverse cast of characters? No
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

2.5

This book is gross, slow, dark and twisted. 

First off, the book is very slow, especially in the beginning. It fits the theme and sets the book's tone, but it doesn't read nicely. The book has some big themes and criticisms about 1980s America, which is very interesting and insightful. Patricks focus on clothing, brand, music and materialism really sets a mood whilst reading and depth to the characters. BUT IT'S FUCKING BORING.  Personally, I skipped most of these, the long lists, I understand why they are there and that Bret intentionally puts them in the book to be boring and bore the reader. 

The book is super super gross and not at all for the faint of heart. The book goes into detail about the murders and sex. It is very unsettling and I sometimes strayed away from reading for a few hours after certain chapters.

My favorite part of the book is clearly a few chapters near the end.
Spoiler In these chapters we start the get clear indications that Patrick and thus the narration can't be trusted. I loved Chase, Manhatten chapter. The sudden switch from first person to third person in this chapter really showed me how psychotic Patrick is. This combined with the absurdity of the chapter really made me realize that Patrick is untrustworthy and made me question a lot of the things that happened in the book. This was supported by the idea that Patrick often says things about murder or rape, that the people around him just ignore. His trustworthiness is confirmed when his lawyer says to has had lunch with one of Patrick's victims.


Overall, I think this book is very interesting and learnful. Even in the modern day a lot of the themes are still present or even worse.  The book is however a very boring read or very gross most of the time, due to this I gave it a low rating, simply because I did not enjoy reading it for most of the book, I also feel like the book could have been half the size. The ending was a let down in my opinion and a bit too vague. It would have been better if the ending focussed more on the trustworthiness of Patrick.

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challenging dark mysterious reflective tense slow-paced
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  • Strong character development? It's complicated
  • Loveable characters? No
  • Diverse cast of characters? No
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.5

Slow paces book that does everything it’s trying to do. Reading this book also has dropped my rating of the movie significantly, both because of it’s failure to convey the fact the Patrick Bateman is not cool, and for it’s decontextualized ending. They made the movie into a thing that has a beginning, middle, and end of a story, wheras the book is more of something with movements. Like an orchestra. The first introduces you to his life and is by far the funniest, which fades gracefully into the second, the longest and most brutal. The second begins with his killing Paul Allen, and the American psycho movie does that just fine. But the thing the movie is missing is the third. The third movement where patrick bateman shows us just how crazy he is, and gets more delusional, and the story more fragmented and experimental. The clear image of this wallstreet buisnessman who wants so desperately for people to see how crazy he is, and how terrible of a person he is, but either he doesnt do anything and just sits there delusional dreaming about how such a terrible world would not care. Or they genuinely dont notice or care. 

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