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De ballade van slangen en zangvogels by Suzanne Collins

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pysselfia's review against another edition

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adventurous dark emotional reflective tense medium-paced

Plot- or character-driven? A mix
Strong character development? It's complicated
Loveable characters? It's complicated
Diverse cast of characters? Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.75

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memoirsofabooklover's review against another edition

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adventurous dark emotional sad tense medium-paced

Plot- or character-driven? Plot
Strong character development? No
Loveable characters? It's complicated
Diverse cast of characters? Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

5.0

this was a brilliant sequel. perfect length, it really gave you time to delve in to the story. suzanne did a brilliant job of putting us in snow’s mind. the way she started off making you feel sorry for him because he has real hardships and goes through many genuine emotions you find yourself kind of rooting for him and *almost* forgetting what he was to become

the complexity, yet simplicity, and eventually tragedy, of his love story with lucy gray was so well written, you weren’t sure if you could trust her and the way it spoke her ballad in to existence at the end was chilling

. the attention to detail was incredible; so many nods to, and easter eggs from the original trilogy. and not only those, but also the fact that we see the creation of the world that katniss is brought up in, and connect so many dots.

the songs origins brought from the original trilogy, as well as the other songs sung were haunting, as well as it being incredible to see their origin and true meaning behind them. the symbolism of it all was poetic. seeing snow’s mindset already being brainwashed by his society, the superiority he feels from his tile and status being further twisted and deepened to become the man who we meet in the original trilogy.

the depravity and brutality of the treatment of the districts in this earlier setting was astounding, after reading the original books you don’t imagine things be much worse in the past but it is, despite the wicked and twisted things yet to come, along with snow’s power. overall, it was a brilliantly thought-out and crafted novel, perfectly tying in to the original trilogy; whilst being its own twisted, compelling story.

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theaceofpages's review against another edition

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adventurous dark medium-paced

Plot- or character-driven? Character
Strong character development? It's complicated
Loveable characters? No
Diverse cast of characters? No
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.0

Let me preface this by saying that I listened to the audiobook. I suspect that this has a negative effect in my reading experience and I have attempted to adjust my rating bases on this. I switched between being okay with the narrator and being very frustrated. There are a lot of songs and while I don't expect them to come up with a whole score for an audiobook, some kind of tone, enthusiasm, energy (you get the idea) would have been a massive improvement. The Gem of Panem sounds almost AI generated and his female "singing" voice is just frustrating. Other than that the narrator was okay, but nothing special either.

Set not too long after the war against the rebels, this book explores the Capitol and the early Hunger Games through the eyes of Snow (yes, that Snow). He is assigned as a mentor and plans to exploit this to ensure a good future for himself. Unfortunately for him, he is assigned the underdog of the underdogs - Lucy Gray Baird the district 12 female tribute. But she is not your usual district 13 citizen and Snow works with her to try ensure her survival and his future.

It's been a while since I've read the original trilogy (maybe I should reread them actually...) but I remember what reading it was like. I enjoyed the prequel but it reads a lot like fanfiction. And I don't necessarily mean this in a bad way. There are a lot of what feel like *see, see* moments (e.g. several references to the katniss plant, songs, I'm sure there are several others I'm missing). There were parts I absolutely loved and others that... Yeah. I think parts could have been better/explained more/etc. The book maybe tries to fit a bit too much story in. I'd say it maybe contains content equal to about two of the original trilogy. There were also parts of the end that I just didn't like, but others were interesting

It's quite a lot more violent than the original books. It gets quite disturbing at times. You get to see into parts of just how messed up the Capitol is. I absolutely loved the world building and the insight into the Capitol it provided. I think this was my favourite part of the book. Honestly, I'd be interested in reading more about it, particularly the

genetics lab

(not really a spoiler but a thing that exists). It was inter sting to see into the aftermath of the war and at least at this point that not everyone lives the same glamorous lifestyle. Being able to see how things started growing into the world we saw in the last book was great. The games (still relatively new) are quite different to what we see then.

I wasn't a big fan of the main characters. I know other liked her but Lucy annoyed me, although I don't know how much of that is because of Snow's views. Snow... Well, I didn't like him. Not because of who he becomes but because who he is in this book. I know he's young but he's kind of all over the place. I think it might be an attempt to make him complex, but it just didn't work for me. It is an interesting look into how mind works though and his thought processes and reasoning.

Was it worth reading? Yes. Just be prepared for something far darker than the original trilogy that somehow managed to be the same and nothing like it at the same time. I think it delves into a lot of interesting ideas and expands on the world

Some notes on some of the content warnings (all are individually spoilered)

Child death:

Obviously these would occur, bit I thought it's Worth mentioning that these are more on page than I remember the original trilogy being

Child abuse:

Let's just say that the cushy conditiobs the tributes live in weren't a thing in the past

Murder:

Includes execution

War:

In the past. Lot's of mentions of the aftermath

Gaslighting:

Propaganda

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rylin_marie's review against another edition

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dark emotional mysterious sad tense medium-paced

Plot- or character-driven? A mix
Strong character development? It's complicated
Loveable characters? It's complicated
Diverse cast of characters? Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.75

snow lands on top.

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sariereads's review against another edition

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dark tense medium-paced

Plot- or character-driven? A mix
Strong character development? It's complicated
Loveable characters? It's complicated
Diverse cast of characters? Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.75

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luna_is_superior's review against another edition

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adventurous challenging dark emotional mysterious tense slow-paced

Plot- or character-driven? A mix
Strong character development? Yes
Loveable characters? It's complicated
Diverse cast of characters? Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

5.0

Coryo is a HUGE unreliable narrator, how'd he make me love him until like the last chapter????

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themelleh's review against another edition

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challenging dark sad medium-paced

Plot- or character-driven? A mix
Strong character development? Yes
Loveable characters? It's complicated
Diverse cast of characters? No
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

3.0

We all know what happens to Coriolanus Snow, so it’s nice to see how he gets to be that way. Like most men, he put poor Lucy (in this case) on an unobtainable pedestal and she was the one who paid for it.

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fronk's review against another edition

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dark reflective tense medium-paced

Plot- or character-driven? A mix
Strong character development? Yes
Loveable characters? It's complicated
Diverse cast of characters? Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.0

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erynelle's review against another edition

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challenging dark emotional hopeful inspiring sad tense medium-paced

Plot- or character-driven? A mix
Strong character development? Yes
Loveable characters? It's complicated
Diverse cast of characters? Yes
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.0

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kccool12255's review against another edition

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adventurous challenging dark emotional funny mysterious sad tense medium-paced

Plot- or character-driven? Plot
Strong character development? It's complicated
Loveable characters? Yes
Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.0

Before I start, I'd like to say that once I began my second reading of this book, both of my best friends who love it to death made me promise that I would write an official apology letter if I ended up liking this book. Though I have already given half of the speech, I'm giving the rest of it now.

When I read this book for the first time, I did not like it. I had to DNF around 118 pages because I just couldn't take the slow-pacing anymore, I didn't know what was going on, and it just confused the heck out of me. I HATE DNFing books, I only do it when I absolutely just cannot do it anymore, but it was necessary at the time. And for a while, I didn't see any people who were also hating on this terrible book, and it made me angry. For a minute there, hating on this book was my favorite thing to do. However, my best friends loved it, I was putting off the rest of my reading list, and I figured, why not give it another chance.

I would like to formally apologize for hating on this book with the magnitude and the severity that I have for the best two years. While it is not the best book in the world, it in no way deserves that level of hatred. And I would also like to apologize to my best friends, for hating on them too.

Now, with that out of the way, let's get into the review!

Listen, I get that this is a prequel. We have to fit a hunger games in here, AND Snow's story. However, THE REST OF THE TRILOGY IS 300 PAGES. THIS IS 500. I GET IT, BUT WHY? And we have to face the hurdle of getting past the first 100 pages before the games ACTUALLY get set into motion, which is probably why I didn't continue reading this book the first time around. I suppose it's my OWN fault that this took me a literal month to read, but it's so. long. The beginning could've been paced much better, that's all I'm saying.

I also understand that this is a fantasy and dystopian universe, and the names are gonna be whack, but the trilogy had names that were just a tad bit weird. Suzanne Collins goes BONKERS on the names in this book. I dare you to find me one person who can pronounce Coriolanus properly. I DARE YOU. (Apparently everyone pronounces it like Cornelius? I always thought of it as "Cor-ee-oh-lay-nus", but apparently it's "Cor-yoh-lay-nus", which I guess makes sense with the Coryo nickname, but like. Still.) And I wish the tributes in the hunger games were more memorable, because the only one who really stands out is Lucy Gray herself. In the original trilogy, Katniss and Peeta were the standouts, but there were also other tributes that you could root for and that you wanted to succeed. In this book, no one else is really developed, so you don't really feel anything when they die. Which, by the way, A LOT OF THEM DO, BEFORE THE ACTUAL GAMES. I wish over half the tributes had not died before the actual games

although I did like Marcus's death, it was very grisly and perfectly executed

(and I get that the games are also a work in progress, and there are kinks to be worked out, but still), because they're not developed at all, and you're just like, "oh dang". I know SNOW doesn't care about the tributes dying, but that doesn't mean WE don't have to care, let us as the audience connect with them. And on that note, do the same thing with Snow's fellow MENTORS, come ON. The only standouts are Sejanus and Clemensia, who I desperately wish had more page time, because I really like her.

Sejanus is so precious, by the way. AND THEY KILLED HIM. PRECIOUS BABY BOY. I'M SO SORRY.

I'm also not totally on-board with Snow coming up with literally EVERYTHING. I GET that this man is the eventual president of the nation and that the hunger games would not be what they are without him, but that doesn't mean he has to come up with EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF THE CURRENT GAMES. I would've preferred if some ideas had emerged over time, and not just been thought up by him on the spot. I don't know if Snow came up with EVERYTHING in the current hunger games in this book, but he definitely came up with a lot.

On the topic of Snow, it may or may not have been his actor in the movie that helped me get through this book (hehe). But that's a topic for another day. Reading in Snow's third-person POV is what provides a lot of the comedy from this book. Because you know what the child-murder games are missing? COMEDY. (For legal reasons, this is a joke). Snow is so mean and petty, but it's absolutely hilarious, some of the things he says. I clearly remember the moment in which I found my favorite line in this book. Please enjoy the comedy stylings of Coriolanus Snow below:

"I started out as a medical doctor, you know," Dr. Gaul said. "Obstetrics."
How awful, Coriolanus thought. To have you be the first person in the world a baby sees.

IT IS SO MEAN BUT SO FUNNY. I CAN'T.

On the topic of Dr. Gaul, I have...mixed feelings about her. She's definitely better than Dean Highbottom, who is by far one of the stupidest characters I have ever seen in a book, my GOSH.

Holding a grudge over this bright boy because you were best friends with his father and you had a fight? COME ON. BE SO FOR REAL.

Dean Highbottom is very stupid, I hope his character improves in the movie. Dr. Gaul, however, is a somewhat effective villain. There were times when she annoyed me, and there were times when I was genuinely scared of her. She is INSANE. (And when I'm reading, for some reason, I always picture her as looking like Doc Ock from Into the Spiderverse, I don't know why.) I am unsure where I land on Dr. Gaul, maybe my opinion will change later on.

Now, on to the romance, which, knowing me, it's surprising that I've taken this long to mention it. First off, we've done tribute-tribute pairings, with Katniss and Peeta, and SORT OF done mentor-mentor pairings, with Effie and Haymitch, in the original trilogy, so I LOVE the direction Suzanne Collins went with this. MENTOR-TRIBUTE ROMANCE? YESSSSSSSS. I was LIVING for their first kiss, it was so perfect.

And how they reunited after the games and got closer together, YES. I WAS LIVING MY BEST LIFE. THEY ARE SO PERFECT. She's the perfect softness to his sharp edges, and they could've been so good together if CORYO HAD JUST LET GO. WHY. UGHHHHHHH.

The most clever thing about this relationship, and really this entire book, is that you have a vague idea of how things are going to go, but it STILL manages to surprise you.

I'm gonna include the small little tidbits here, before I round this out. I don't really like Tigris being Snow's cousin, I don't THINK it was ever mentioned in the actual trilogy and it feels kinda shoe-horned in there. I do love what they do with her character, but I wish she had just been a good friend to Snow. And I'm not gonna put too much about Sejanus, because the fandom does enough of that, but he is precious.

I did spoil the ending for myself, but I will always be sad about his death. Calling out for his mom, so sad.

I was at first iffy about the symbolism and foreshadowing of future events in this book, but I think it works out well. SO FREAKIN GOOD. I WAS SHOCKED MULTIPLE TIMES.

THEY STRUNG UP A MAN THEY SAY WHO MURDERED THREE? AND HE CALLED OUT FOR HIS LOVE TO FLEE? AND SHE LOOKS LIKE KATNISS? BRO

And Snow's immediate aversion to mockingjays is so funny.

Overall, does this book do the trilogy justice? Not really, but it's still a lot of fun. I actually had a good time, and I'm excited for the movie to come out. It's not my favorite book in the world, but it's not the worst.

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