nightwish's review against another edition
4.0
Leuk om weer bekende namen te lezen! Denk dat het het leukste is om ze tussendoor te lezen, maar het is als standalone prima.
Ik vond dat Firestar en Sandstorm groei vertoonden in hun relatie en persoonlijk.
Ik vond dat Firestar en Sandstorm groei vertoonden in hun relatie en persoonlijk.
ikuo1000's review against another edition
3.0
*** Warning: This review contains spoilers!! ***
3 1/2 stars. I don't know if I'm actually starting to get tired of the series, or if maybe I shouldn't have read two other super editions before reading this one, but I wasn't as blown away by this book as I was by the original series.
Even though this was the first super edition published, I actually read it after having already read Yellowfang's Secret and Tallstar's Revenge. In this book, the big quest involves Firestar going on a long journey, with Sandstorm accompanying him. But I actually found Tallstar's travels - which he undertook alone - much more interesting, making Firestar and Sandstorm's trip somewhat less impressive. In Yellowfang's Secret, ShadowClan tried to take down a bunch of rats, but despite being a large, well-trained clan, they actually lost the first battle. In light of that, it seemed unlikely that a young SkyClan - with fewer cats and less battle experience - would be able to defeat a sea of evil rats that had previously dominated over the first SkyClan.
I really liked the whole idea of Firestar building a clan from scratch, but many of the supporting details bothered me. From the beginning, it just didn't make sense that StarClan would allow four clans to gang up on and chase out the fifth clan. I just don't see how StarClan could have allowed such a major violation of the warrior code! Then, once Firestar understood his quest, I was annoyed that he was so wishy-washy about it. Sandstorm had to keep reassuring him that he was doing the right thing. I think it would have been more in character for Firestorm to complete his quest with conviction, never wavering from the goal, even if he felt unsure about himself along the way. Furthermore, as soon as the Shining / Whispering Cave was discovered, it was so clear that it ought to have served the same purpose as the Moonstone - a place for cats to speak with their warrior ancestors. Yet, in the end, the SkyClan cats communed with StarClan at Skyrock - so what was the point of the cave? Even when Echosong came along, it still wasn't clear. Why could some cats hear voices, and others couldn't? Would the cave only be used by medicine cats? Finally, I really thought Rainfur should have given a life to SkyClan's new leader!
Even the ending was unsatisfying for me. I wanted to read a bit about how the other clan members - and the other clans - reacted when Firestar told them the whole history of the fifth clan. I am assuming Firestar would have shared the entire story at a Gathering, since it was not actually a ThunderClan secret and was information that all clans were entitled to know. In fact, in hindsight, I think Firestar should have told the other clans before he left, giving every clan a chance - if they wanted it - to go with him to help repair the damage that all their warrior ancestors had done. Seems to me that once Firestar returned, the other clans might not have been happy, and might have accused him of trying to form an alliance with another clan!
But, I did enjoy reading about the process by which Firestar built the clan, having to recruit members and teach them about the warrior code, and having to be patient as some lessons couldn't be learned except by experience.
3 1/2 stars. I don't know if I'm actually starting to get tired of the series, or if maybe I shouldn't have read two other super editions before reading this one, but I wasn't as blown away by this book as I was by the original series.
Even though this was the first super edition published, I actually read it after having already read Yellowfang's Secret and Tallstar's Revenge. In this book, the big quest involves Firestar going on a long journey, with Sandstorm accompanying him. But I actually found Tallstar's travels - which he undertook alone - much more interesting, making Firestar and Sandstorm's trip somewhat less impressive. In Yellowfang's Secret, ShadowClan tried to take down a bunch of rats, but despite being a large, well-trained clan, they actually lost the first battle. In light of that, it seemed unlikely that a young SkyClan - with fewer cats and less battle experience - would be able to defeat a sea of evil rats that had previously dominated over the first SkyClan.
I really liked the whole idea of Firestar building a clan from scratch, but many of the supporting details bothered me. From the beginning, it just didn't make sense that StarClan would allow four clans to gang up on and chase out the fifth clan. I just don't see how StarClan could have allowed such a major violation of the warrior code! Then, once Firestar understood his quest, I was annoyed that he was so wishy-washy about it. Sandstorm had to keep reassuring him that he was doing the right thing. I think it would have been more in character for Firestorm to complete his quest with conviction, never wavering from the goal, even if he felt unsure about himself along the way. Furthermore, as soon as the Shining / Whispering Cave was discovered, it was so clear that it ought to have served the same purpose as the Moonstone - a place for cats to speak with their warrior ancestors. Yet, in the end, the SkyClan cats communed with StarClan at Skyrock - so what was the point of the cave? Even when Echosong came along, it still wasn't clear. Why could some cats hear voices, and others couldn't? Would the cave only be used by medicine cats? Finally, I really thought Rainfur should have given a life to SkyClan's new leader!
Even the ending was unsatisfying for me. I wanted to read a bit about how the other clan members - and the other clans - reacted when Firestar told them the whole history of the fifth clan. I am assuming Firestar would have shared the entire story at a Gathering, since it was not actually a ThunderClan secret and was information that all clans were entitled to know. In fact, in hindsight, I think Firestar should have told the other clans before he left, giving every clan a chance - if they wanted it - to go with him to help repair the damage that all their warrior ancestors had done. Seems to me that once Firestar returned, the other clans might not have been happy, and might have accused him of trying to form an alliance with another clan!
But, I did enjoy reading about the process by which Firestar built the clan, having to recruit members and teach them about the warrior code, and having to be patient as some lessons couldn't be learned except by experience.
aotora's review against another edition
4.0
I decided to finish the Warriors series so I grabbed a couple of super editions and main series books and this one was the first on the pile I read.
I liked it I guess, it wasn't the best book ever but it was all right.
I wish that SkyClan cats didn't get renamed, I would honestly be interested in a clan that doesn't have warrior names but is just full of kittypets and rouges with their kittypet and rogue names.
Skywatcher was such an interesting character and had so much potential, but he was so underused in my opinion so his death didn't really have an impact on me.
I felt so sorry for Longtail but that just never gets resolved. I mean I know from Wiki that he never regains his eyesight but that just seems to come out of nowhere, it happens and is just never resolved- I hoped that after Firestar and Sandstorm came back home they would say something about it -but nope, it's never mentioned again in this book.
I didn't like the whole SpottedleafxFirestar subplot- that's still the one pairing I don't care about and I don't feel like it's been developed properly- they met a few times before she died and they are suddenly madly in love- or at least he is with her. That whole Firestar like Spottedleaf more than Sandstorm and Sandstorm gets jealous got really annoying really fast- as much as I am not a fan of Sandstorm they at least developed the romance more.
Some parts of the story dragged on a little bit, especially repetitive parts where they either walk either train either do the patrols-
The battle with rats was intense and interesting and the one death that happens is actually more impactful than Skywatcher's because you actually get to know Rainfur a little better and the fact that he came to live in a clan just so he could find a safe haven for his mate and kits after they were neglected by their owner was just so sad. He finds them a new and safe home only to die almost as soon as they settle.
I liked most of the SkyClan cats too - I liked the development Clovertail gets because she goes from being selfish and only wanting to join for protection to being a proper warrior and queen. She is a really good character all around and so are the others, I just wish that they play a bigger role later in series and actually come back and that they are not just established as a new clan and never seen again aside from in the super editions.
I liked it I guess, it wasn't the best book ever but it was all right.
I wish that SkyClan cats didn't get renamed, I would honestly be interested in a clan that doesn't have warrior names but is just full of kittypets and rouges with their kittypet and rogue names.
Skywatcher was such an interesting character and had so much potential, but he was so underused in my opinion so his death didn't really have an impact on me.
I felt so sorry for Longtail but that just never gets resolved. I mean I know from Wiki that he never regains his eyesight but that just seems to come out of nowhere, it happens and is just never resolved- I hoped that after Firestar and Sandstorm came back home they would say something about it -but nope, it's never mentioned again in this book.
I didn't like the whole SpottedleafxFirestar subplot- that's still the one pairing I don't care about and I don't feel like it's been developed properly- they met a few times before she died and they are suddenly madly in love- or at least he is with her. That whole Firestar like Spottedleaf more than Sandstorm and Sandstorm gets jealous got really annoying really fast- as much as I am not a fan of Sandstorm they at least developed the romance more.
Some parts of the story dragged on a little bit, especially repetitive parts where they either walk either train either do the patrols-
The battle with rats was intense and interesting and the one death that happens is actually more impactful than Skywatcher's because you actually get to know Rainfur a little better and the fact that he came to live in a clan just so he could find a safe haven for his mate and kits after they were neglected by their owner was just so sad. He finds them a new and safe home only to die almost as soon as they settle.
I liked most of the SkyClan cats too - I liked the development Clovertail gets because she goes from being selfish and only wanting to join for protection to being a proper warrior and queen. She is a really good character all around and so are the others, I just wish that they play a bigger role later in series and actually come back and that they are not just established as a new clan and never seen again aside from in the super editions.
dreamkitti's review against another edition
3.0
This is a tough book to rate. I absolutely adore this series, since it first came out. This one, though, really struggles for the first half.
Similar to Midnight, from the new prophecy arc, this books starts with a journey. It is very, very slow going. Book typically build on themselves, not wasting character introductions or places. But this book is full of random characters for the sake of them being there. Unlike Midnight, though, I at least enjoyed all the characters. They worked together and don’t spend the whole time arguing.
At about the halfway point this book really picks up steam and gets very good. However, because of a poorly used beginning, some things feel rushed. But the characters become more purposeful, and you really feel the book start to build momentum.
I’d recommend it as a read! I thoroughly enjoyed the last half, and I loved the premise. It’s just difficult to rate because of the slow beginning.
Similar to Midnight, from the new prophecy arc, this books starts with a journey. It is very, very slow going. Book typically build on themselves, not wasting character introductions or places. But this book is full of random characters for the sake of them being there. Unlike Midnight, though, I at least enjoyed all the characters. They worked together and don’t spend the whole time arguing.
At about the halfway point this book really picks up steam and gets very good. However, because of a poorly used beginning, some things feel rushed. But the characters become more purposeful, and you really feel the book start to build momentum.
I’d recommend it as a read! I thoroughly enjoyed the last half, and I loved the premise. It’s just difficult to rate because of the slow beginning.
teo3's review against another edition
adventurous
emotional
medium-paced
- Loveable characters? Yes
5.0
bardic_llama's review against another edition
adventurous
funny
relaxing
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Loveable characters? Yes
3.0
Good audiobook to fall asleep to.
nitedream's review against another edition
adventurous
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? N/A
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
wondermilk's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
2.25
It is so wild how nonsense the first 400 pages were! Like I'm not saying the story didn't get good but why was this book 509 pages long.
edgarapoe's review against another edition
adventurous
emotional
lighthearted
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
3.5