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A Discovery of Witches (Movie Tie-In) by Deborah Harkness

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lakeofstars's review against another edition

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mysterious slow-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Character
  • Strong character development? It's complicated
  • Loveable characters? No
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

1.5

if you take away the extremely toxic romance, then there's a good story set in a Really interesting universe here. i adored the weaving of history, science, and magic, the fact that it focuses on two scholars, and that there's a big underlying mystery that actually requires the expertise of said scholars (a geneticist and a historian) to unwind. but then, all of it is shaped around a stupid, disgusting, unhealthy romance, and that ruins it all for me. matthew, the male lead, is extremely possessive, controlling, and manipulative towards diana, the female lead. he controls her every move, location, and even the people she can interact with. all of this is excused because he is a vampire who “can’t control his instincts” and has lived longer and therefore “knows what is best.” beyond the distastefulness of such a love interest being romanticized, i personally think that the concept of characters “just being born violently possessive and controlling, they can’t help it!” is… weird at best and bioessentialist at worst. i get it, he’s a vampire, they’re not meant to be sweet and cuddly, but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth when such toxic behaviors are not only excused, but defended within the text. it works in horror stories like carmilla (which was MILD compared to the way matthew treats diana sometimes), not in regular romances where we are expected to take such “boys will be boys”-esque excuses at face value. at least it seems like all vampires in this universe have these instincts, not just the males, which would make things significantly more problematic. but that doesn’t mean i’m ever going to accept that matthew’s abusive treatment of diana is “romantic.” additionally, i didn’t like matthew as a character. even beyond the toxicity, he was not nearly as charming as the author clearly wanted us to believe that he was. the amount of times i audibly scoffed because he was throwing another tantrum (a 1500-year-old man, btw), saying something that was supposed to be suave but felt cringey, or insisting his privacy was more important than diana’s was abysmal. 

also- ironically, considering the entire basis of her character is that she was forging her own path- diana had NO agency at any point. whether it was finding out her op magic had been guiding her all along, matthew dictating her every action, or other characters swooping in and saving her any time she is about to have to fend for herself, she doesn't DO anything!! oh, except for have a five-paragraph internal soliloquy about mundane activities like exercising or preparing tea every other page. thankfully, she does investigate a lot of things herself, but believe me when i say you have to trudge through chapters of her doing busywork and either thinking about or being bossed around by matthew before you get to see it. i don’t mind an overpowered MC if they’re written well, which i hoped diana would be, but she ended up being a typical mary sue who, despite being described as incredibly headstrong and independent, constantly bends to the will of and needs to be saved by the big strong male lead. i wish that this book was just about her because before she started dating matthew and everything came crashing down, i found her characterization and gradual acclimation to her new abilities to be compelling. 

but all of that aside, this book’s greatest sin is that it was boring. i was BORED reading a book about solving mysteries, about magic, about witches and daemons and vampires, about history, about science, about alchemy- about so many things i normally love. the novel barely focused on what made it interesting to me in the first place. it made what should have been high stakes seem inconsequential, considering the characters barely paid them any mind most of the time. if this author wanted to write a contemporary romance where a witch and a vampire drink wine and do yoga, then she could have written exactly that instead of sidelining the plot. the imbalance between the romance (notice how i didn’t say relationship development? that’s because there was barely any transition between “i trust him i guess” and “i’m in love with him and we are basically married”) and the main story was severe, and while this may not be a problem for someone who enjoys the romance genre more (and who can stomach such a problematic dynamic), it was a major turn off for me. a book can absolutely be primarily a romance without neglecting the rest of the plot, but unfortunately that was not the case here. and suddenly, at around the 80% mark, the author seemed to remember all of the other plot threads she had neglected and rushed to provide answers that should have been built up throughout the middle section of the novel. Love That! 

i also am just straight up not a fan of fertility/conception storylines, which this seems to be leading into for the next book. i'll read it because i AM invested, but... i'm scared.


 

tl;dr: pros- atmosphere, language/prose, worldbuilding (for the first half, at least). cons- pacing, character writing, relationships 
- this was originally going to be 2 stars, but i looked at the other books i gave that rating to and this is definitely worse than them. so... here we are.

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siglerbooknook's review against another edition

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adventurous hopeful mysterious reflective medium-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? A mix
  • Strong character development? Yes
  • Loveable characters? Yes
  • Diverse cast of characters? Yes
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? No

4.75

I loved this book! The story captured so many emotions well. It made me laugh, made me nervous. I was fully invested in the heroes. The villains were frightening. They felt like real people with motivations while still feeling dangerous and bad.

The side characters are wonderful. Each character felt like their own person, even those who were only in a few chapters. Harkness does a wonderful job writing witty banter. I caught myself laughing out loud at several points.

The unique take on witches, vampires, and demons was very enjoyable. I loved the world building and how myth and legend are woven so seemlessly into the story.

My only gripe was how secretive a few characters are. It feels like a few things would have been a lot less dangerous with honest communication. I also didn't like Matthew much at the beginning because he was so controlling, but that got better/more understandable as the story went along.

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nuttus's review against another edition

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The plot is dragging and filled with unnecessary descriptions about wine, tea, food, exercise, smells, alchemy and I don’t even remember what else. Descriptions that seemed to be just there only for the sake of being there. They had nothing to do with the plot or anything but making the book longer than necessary. Editor of the book did not do their job for leaving them there. 

The characters at the beginning were interesting, but as the book progressed they lost all their personality. Instead of development they had a decline, especially Diana. The autonomous, strong willed and smart professor became a weak damsel in distress acting like a scared child, depending on the vampire to make every single decision for her - what she was and wasn’t allowed to do. 

Which brings us to Matthew who is nothing more than an alpha male podcaster who has no other reason to be obeyed than a because I say so. At first our heroine is not cool with that, until she seems to start suffering from Stockholm syndrome and just obeyes. Matthew is also manipulative, secretive and possessive douche who veils all of that to being concerned about Diana’s safety and just shrugs his shoulders saying that’s just me. Zero willingness to learn anything else.

Diana is also so ridiculously overpowered that it’s not believable. First she doesn’t want to use her magic and then she can’t. And then she suddenly learns do it perfectly in five minutes. All this screams an Y/N wattpad fanfic written by a 10-year old.

Oh and I’m having a hard time understanding how this heroine is a respected scholar when she is literally so dumb that it takes her almost the whole book to understand that her mother told her her future in stories. Even if the mom literally tells her the story while she is living it at the moment. How can someone so dumb be a scientist? Before realizing this she of course had to have a melodramatic self pity temper tantrum. 

The plot line also is all over the place. There is secret society or two, a magical manuscript, Diana’s superpowers, death of her parents, forbidden love story and a slow extinction of creatures. With all this going on, not much really happens in the book. Like at all.  They just drink wine and read crazy old books, smell each other and sleep together while whispering cheesy crap to each other. 

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larkspurlane's review against another edition

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dark slow-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? A mix
  • Strong character development? No
  • Loveable characters? It's complicated
  • Diverse cast of characters? No
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

2.0


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amy_reading_23's review against another edition

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adventurous emotional mysterious medium-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? A mix
  • Strong character development? It's complicated
  • Loveable characters? No
  • Diverse cast of characters? No
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated

3.75

This book is complicated. Not as in it hard to follow (although I had watched the TV show beforehand so that gave me an advantage) but that I'm not sure what to make of it. There were some bits I really enjoyed. And some bits that made me uncomfortable. I don't like how Matthew treats Diana, I think their relationship is pretty toxic tbh and a bit misogynistic in times. They also excuse too much of his behaviour as "ifs because he's a vampire". But the plot is interesting and I still want to read the next two sometime, I'm just not necessarily in a rush. 

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toni7tess's review against another edition

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adventurous dark emotional tense slow-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Plot
  • Strong character development? No
  • Loveable characters? No
  • Diverse cast of characters? No
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated

3.75

First, this is a slow read. Although I very much enjoyed that, especially the elaborate descriptions of tastes and architecture, I can see how it could easily annoy others. 

I feel like this book probably deserves fewer stars than I gave it, because it made me feel very uncomfortable a few times. However, I genuinely enjoyed reading A Discovery of Witches. The academic context is original, the historical details are intriguing, and I adored the worldbuilding and the slow, descriptive writing style. 

Diana’s struggles with anxiety were well written and it was refreshing to see a protagonist have more realistic responses to traumatic situations and memories. 

Now onto the bad stuff. The worst thing about this book was how controlling Matthew was. While he is an interesting character, the way he treats Diana is disturbing at times. She calls him out occasionally, but only a proper confrontation around his behaviour, or maybe some consequences, would have redeemed their relationship for me. This dynamic is handled better in the TV series. 

It’s amazing to (in theory) have a strong, intellectual heroine who knows her place in the world. But Diana’s academic work seems to serve as a really strong motivator sometimes, just to be completely forgotten about other times. It’s also strange that a scholar of history of science and alchemy would not name the ouroboros when she first sees it in Sept Tours, that really took me out of the character. 

Diana never actively tries to make up her mind about who to trust in the complicated power struggle she finds herself in. This results in a very reactive protagonist. Her personal motivations around her career and childhood trauma quickly take second place to the romance and by the end it feels like she just keeps getting pushed around by other characters. 

Finally, the book glorifies feudalism and a very outdated upper-class lifestyle. The characters spend a lot of time drinking expensive alcohol, riding horses side-saddle etc, and it gets annoying.

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mistymoon24's review against another edition

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emotional slow-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Character
  • Strong character development? No
  • Loveable characters? No
  • Diverse cast of characters? No
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

1.0

DNF I only made it to chapter 28.
When he tells her that the moment he said he loved her, she became wife. WITHOUT CONSENT. And she just accepts it.
Diana is a painful pickme and Matthew exhibits shocking degrees of coercive control. It's sad this is considered a good romance.

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kat1105's review against another edition

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adventurous emotional lighthearted mysterious relaxing fast-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? A mix
  • Strong character development? Yes
  • Loveable characters? Yes
  • Diverse cast of characters? No
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

5.0


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ruthee's review against another edition

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slow-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? A mix
  • Strong character development? No
  • Loveable characters? No
  • Diverse cast of characters? No
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated

2.0

Unlike others, I didn’t actually mine the pace or world-building…but the abusive relationship (red flag, after red flag, after red flag) framed as ‘that’s just the way vampires are, and my love is enough’ was so bad it just kept taking me out of the story. 

It’s not often (if ever) that I completely prefer a tv or film adaptation to the original material, but in this case, my love of the tv series was what got me through this. 

In audiobook, the narrator was good, except when it came to any accent that wasn’t their own. The English/Scottish/Australian ones ranged between literally lol to offensive…so strange for a professionally produced book. 

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caffeinated_gills's review against another edition

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adventurous dark tense medium-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Plot
  • Strong character development? No
  • Loveable characters? It's complicated
  • Diverse cast of characters? No
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? N/A

3.75


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