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little7thbirdie's review against another edition
adventurous
emotional
funny
mysterious
sad
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
3.5
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death, Hate crime, Violence, and Murder
Moderate: Adult/minor relationship, Gore, Torture, Blood, Kidnapping, Grief, and Fire/Fire injury
Minor: Genocide, Suicide, Vomit, Grief, Death of parent, and Pandemic/Epidemic
pidgepodge's review against another edition
challenging
dark
emotional
sad
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
This was an amazing series. A heavy topic, but, edge of your seat thrilling and hard to put down. This has become one of my favorite series, and dark as it is, it is also so so addicting.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death, Gore, Physical abuse, Torture, Blood, Religious bigotry, Murder, Fire/Fire injury, War, and Injury/Injury detail
Minor: Genocide
hilocrasher's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death, Emotional abuse, Gore, Gun violence, Hate crime, Suicidal thoughts, Suicide, Mass/school shootings, Suicide attempt, Murder, Fire/Fire injury, and Injury/Injury detail
a_cera_t0ps's review against another edition
dark
sad
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.75
This was kind of hard to read, especially compared to the others in the series. I'm conflicted on how I should review this book. On one hand, it had it's moments, and those moments were strong, but there was so much going on, and it felt like too many threads were being waved all at once. The pacing was a little funky because of that, and now instead of our 2-3 main characters, we had like 8 different perspectives and 3 different new forms of the journal entries. There was so much that this book did, and I feel like it had plenty of really, really good ideas, but there were just too many. I understand that each part of the story was connected to each other, but what it added was outweighed by how it started to stop working. The entire book is so plot driven that it accidentally sacrifices the characters. There are some wonderful moments, but all of the relationships introduced and/or created barely have any time to develop.
A big thing about this book was the pacing. The ending is built up to for the entirety of this book, yet it is crammed in with no proper send off. The last 100 pages holds the primary narrative. It feels like the author got carried away with the in-between scenes that he lost focus of the primary plot. Brief character exploration scenes and years worth exposition goes from being subservient to the story to becoming 93% of the text.
I know that Neal Shusterman is a wonderful author, and I can even see his excellence in this book as well. There are scenes and ideas that hit so hard, that deserve to be published and read, but there was just too much book for one book here. As the 3rd novel in a series, it's odd to me that it felt like the season of a TV show right before it's taken off the air, especially considering that, even though this book is the official finale, there was a spin-off book.
The reason I say I'm conflicted is because I enjoyed this book. But I was also weary and disappointed. I've read worse books than this and not minded, but the reason this one is so hard is because I see how it was imperfect and yet simultaneously almost perfect.
I don't want anyone to get the wrong idea and think that thid book sucked, or that Neal Shusterman is a bad or iffy writer. I think, to a certain degree, the panic and overwhelming nature that is portrayed in the story makes it as good as it is. I'm really just. .. well, conflicted.
A big thing about this book was the pacing. The ending is built up to for the entirety of this book, yet it is crammed in with no proper send off. The last 100 pages holds the primary narrative. It feels like the author got carried away with the in-between scenes that he lost focus of the primary plot. Brief character exploration scenes and years worth exposition goes from being subservient to the story to becoming 93% of the text.
I know that Neal Shusterman is a wonderful author, and I can even see his excellence in this book as well. There are scenes and ideas that hit so hard, that deserve to be published and read, but there was just too much book for one book here. As the 3rd novel in a series, it's odd to me that it felt like the season of a TV show right before it's taken off the air, especially considering that, even though this book is the official finale, there was a spin-off book.
The reason I say I'm conflicted is because I enjoyed this book. But I was also weary and disappointed. I've read worse books than this and not minded, but the reason this one is so hard is because I see how it was imperfect and yet simultaneously almost perfect.
I don't want anyone to get the wrong idea and think that thid book sucked, or that Neal Shusterman is a bad or iffy writer. I think, to a certain degree, the panic and overwhelming nature that is portrayed in the story makes it as good as it is. I'm really just. .. well, conflicted.
Content Warnings
Minor: Body horror, Death, Genocide, Gore, Physical abuse, Violence, Xenophobia, Blood, Police brutality, Grief, Religious bigotry, Murder, Fire/Fire injury, Gaslighting, and War
hales_1243's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
emotional
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? N/A
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
5.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Body horror, Child death, Death, Genocide, Gore, Gun violence, Hate crime, Homophobia, Physical abuse, Racism, Torture, Transphobia, Violence, Blood, Kidnapping, Grief, Religious bigotry, Murder, and Fire/Fire injury
Moderate: Adult/minor relationship, Cancer, Gun violence, Vomit, Gaslighting, and Abandonment
Mention of plane crashes.fancypotato1995's review against another edition
challenging
dark
emotional
sad
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.75
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death, Genocide, Gore, Hate crime, Torture, Violence, Blood, Grief, Murder, Fire/Fire injury, Injury/Injury detail, and Classism
Minor: Pandemic/Epidemic
rachelditty's review against another edition
emotional
hopeful
reflective
tense
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.75
An incredible finale to a smart and captivating series. Neal Shusterman is an insane mastermind of his craft, and ot shows in this entire trillogy. There's so much to love.
It's about love and compassion. It's always been about love and compassion.
I think the only thing that keeps me from giving it 5 stars is that I don't love the dip in narration from Rowan toward the end when he's in the Lone Star region. I felt like he got a bit sidelined after he was nearly burned to death.
Reading about Scythe Faraday and Murina at the beginning, hearing the Thunderhead's siren but not understanding what it is, and knowing they're about to be marooned on a secluded island where no new will reach them, was incredible to read. It's upsetting and tense, and just like not knowing when Rowan and Citra will come back, you have no idea when Faraday and Murina will learn about Endura. And the whole time, Faraday has such hope and faith in Curie. It's so sad.
The Thunderhead really does evolve into one of my favorite characters in the series. It makes jokes to Grayson, who rolls his eyes but secretly finds them funny. Understanding the Thunderhead's thought process is so interesting and sympathetic to me. It monitors Grayson because it can't embrace him. It doesn't give him reassurance or scorns he doesn't need, but that doesn't mean it isn't afraid for the state of the world and the people on it. My favorite scene in the book is when Scythe Morrison comes to glean Grayson, and the Thunderhead has to work around its own programming to help Grayson escape. I love that it finds ways to sneak around the blind spots of its own rules. Chapter 23, "How to Glean a Holy Man," is my favorite chapter.
Scythe Constantine is such a gray character. You don't want to trust him because he's hunting Rowan in book two, but is also a confidant of Curie and Anastasia. When Rowan and Constantine see each other in this book, and Constantine is kind of gloating only for Rowan to respond with "I love you too" is such a fun dynamic. I would have loved to see more of them hating each other in a begrudgingly allied way.
The Mile High Gleaning is blood chilling. Watching Rowan succumb to the fact that he really will die in front of thousands of people, only for Goddard to turn everything on its head and glean the audience, is awful to watch. Rand tried to make things better, but she only made things worse. It's such a punctual point of Goddard's inability to return from this line of morality he's crossed, aside from Endura, and literally everything else that's talked about in this book.
Jericho was always such an interesting character to me. The captain was intelligent and loyal, and was always there to provide a sense of calm to the other characters. I loved Jericho's dynamic with Grayson, and with Anastasia, and having the captain be the one to be a middle-man for Grayson and the Thunderhead, and then be the character to bring up the idea of vessels, was such miniscule foreshadowing that was incredibly done. Even the similarity in Hello Grayson. It was just so well lined up. I'm glad Jericho and Grayson stayed together after everything.
I cannot even express how amazing I think the end of this book is, and the end of the series. The founding Scythe Da Vinci putting hints to the failsafe in not only a children's song, but the ENTIRE Tonist religion? The two prongs being the transmitter? The Tonist's putrid water of diseases being the ten diseases in everyone's nanites once the diamonds are destroyed? The fucking signal the transmitter lets out being a G-flat (or is it A-sharp?). It's all just so INCREDIBLY smart and well-rounded, I cannot believe it all comes together so seamlessly.
Grayson marking the Thunderhead as unsavory for what it did to Jericho, saying it, like humanity, can be redeemed in his eyes in time. Scythe Faraday and other scythes in his footsteps taking the chance to not choose people for death, but help them pass on in a calm and painless manner when they become sick, giving the family the chance to mourn and giving the person a fast passing. Rowan being there when Citra finally wakes up, after hundreds of years in space, having turned a corner so he looked the same to her. It's all about love. The whole series was just about humanity's compassion for one another and the love we show. It's so good. I cannot express how good it makes me feel by the end. It's about love. It's always been about love.
Quotes I Loved:
"'If the bar can't be lowered... then the floor must be raised,'" (p. 185).
"'Why stress my emotional inanities by thinking of terrible things?'
A fine philosophy until the terrible thing comes to you," (p. 217).
"'A successful lie is not fueled by the lair; it is fueled by the willingness of the listener to believe. You can't expose a lie without first shattering the will to believe it. That is why leading people to truth is so much more effective than merely telling them,'" (p. 308-309).
"The rest of the world saw them both as symbols. Intangible light to guide them in the darkness. She understood now why ancient peoples turned their heroes into constellations," (p. 444).
"If there was one thing Rowan had learned, it was that no one could be trusted to stay true. Ideals eroded, virtue tarnished, and even the high road had dimly lit detours," (p. 529).
"'Only a moment ago,' Rowan tells her. 'Only a moment ago,'" (p. 631).
What an incredible series.
It's about love and compassion. It's always been about love and compassion.
I think the only thing that keeps me from giving it 5 stars is that I don't love the dip in narration from Rowan toward the end when he's in the Lone Star region. I felt like he got a bit sidelined after he was nearly burned to death.
Reading about Scythe Faraday and Murina at the beginning, hearing the Thunderhead's siren but not understanding what it is, and knowing they're about to be marooned on a secluded island where no new will reach them, was incredible to read. It's upsetting and tense, and just like not knowing when Rowan and Citra will come back, you have no idea when Faraday and Murina will learn about Endura. And the whole time, Faraday has such hope and faith in Curie. It's so sad.
The Thunderhead really does evolve into one of my favorite characters in the series. It makes jokes to Grayson, who rolls his eyes but secretly finds them funny. Understanding the Thunderhead's thought process is so interesting and sympathetic to me. It monitors Grayson because it can't embrace him. It doesn't give him reassurance or scorns he doesn't need, but that doesn't mean it isn't afraid for the state of the world and the people on it. My favorite scene in the book is when Scythe Morrison comes to glean Grayson, and the Thunderhead has to work around its own programming to help Grayson escape. I love that it finds ways to sneak around the blind spots of its own rules. Chapter 23, "How to Glean a Holy Man," is my favorite chapter.
Scythe Constantine is such a gray character. You don't want to trust him because he's hunting Rowan in book two, but is also a confidant of Curie and Anastasia. When Rowan and Constantine see each other in this book, and Constantine is kind of gloating only for Rowan to respond with "I love you too" is such a fun dynamic. I would have loved to see more of them hating each other in a begrudgingly allied way.
The Mile High Gleaning is blood chilling. Watching Rowan succumb to the fact that he really will die in front of thousands of people, only for Goddard to turn everything on its head and glean the audience, is awful to watch. Rand tried to make things better, but she only made things worse. It's such a punctual point of Goddard's inability to return from this line of morality he's crossed, aside from Endura, and literally everything else that's talked about in this book.
Jericho was always such an interesting character to me. The captain was intelligent and loyal, and was always there to provide a sense of calm to the other characters. I loved Jericho's dynamic with Grayson, and with Anastasia, and having the captain be the one to be a middle-man for Grayson and the Thunderhead, and then be the character to bring up the idea of vessels, was such miniscule foreshadowing that was incredibly done. Even the similarity in Hello Grayson. It was just so well lined up. I'm glad Jericho and Grayson stayed together after everything.
I cannot even express how amazing I think the end of this book is, and the end of the series. The founding Scythe Da Vinci putting hints to the failsafe in not only a children's song, but the ENTIRE Tonist religion? The two prongs being the transmitter? The Tonist's putrid water of diseases being the ten diseases in everyone's nanites once the diamonds are destroyed? The fucking signal the transmitter lets out being a G-flat (or is it A-sharp?). It's all just so INCREDIBLY smart and well-rounded, I cannot believe it all comes together so seamlessly.
Grayson marking the Thunderhead as unsavory for what it did to Jericho, saying it, like humanity, can be redeemed in his eyes in time. Scythe Faraday and other scythes in his footsteps taking the chance to not choose people for death, but help them pass on in a calm and painless manner when they become sick, giving the family the chance to mourn and giving the person a fast passing. Rowan being there when Citra finally wakes up, after hundreds of years in space, having turned a corner so he looked the same to her. It's all about love. The whole series was just about humanity's compassion for one another and the love we show. It's so good. I cannot express how good it makes me feel by the end. It's about love. It's always been about love.
Quotes I Loved:
"'If the bar can't be lowered... then the floor must be raised,'" (p. 185).
"'Why stress my emotional inanities by thinking of terrible things?'
A fine philosophy until the terrible thing comes to you," (p. 217).
"'A successful lie is not fueled by the lair; it is fueled by the willingness of the listener to believe. You can't expose a lie without first shattering the will to believe it. That is why leading people to truth is so much more effective than merely telling them,'" (p. 308-309).
"The rest of the world saw them both as symbols. Intangible light to guide them in the darkness. She understood now why ancient peoples turned their heroes into constellations," (p. 444).
"If there was one thing Rowan had learned, it was that no one could be trusted to stay true. Ideals eroded, virtue tarnished, and even the high road had dimly lit detours," (p. 529).
"'Only a moment ago,' Rowan tells her. 'Only a moment ago,'" (p. 631).
What an incredible series.
Content Warnings
Moderate: Death, Gore, Violence, Blood, Grief, Religious bigotry, Murder, and Injury/Injury detail
headinthepages's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
emotional
funny
inspiring
reflective
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
5.0
I adore this series. This book rounded things off enough to feel satisfying, yet left me wanting more. I could have kept reading this book way past it’s ending.
I think Shusterman has created something genuinely brilliant, with characters you really root for, a plot that keeps you engaging and magnificent, thoughtful world building.
I honestly absolutely LOVED my time with these books and the audio narration my Tremblay was fantastic throughout!
I think Shusterman has created something genuinely brilliant, with characters you really root for, a plot that keeps you engaging and magnificent, thoughtful world building.
I honestly absolutely LOVED my time with these books and the audio narration my Tremblay was fantastic throughout!
Content Warnings
Moderate: Body horror, Cancer, Death, Gore, Racism, Toxic relationship, Violence, Blood, Medical content, Grief, Murder, Fire/Fire injury, Toxic friendship, Alcohol, War, and Injury/Injury detail
unicornofthesea's review against another edition
adventurous
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
4.5
Content Warnings
Moderate: Death, Gore, Gun violence, Hate crime, Racism, Violence, Car accident, Suicide attempt, Death of parent, Murder, Fire/Fire injury, and Injury/Injury detail
cepbreed's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
emotional
mysterious
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
5.0
I am in awe. I really thought this book was on track to be the worst in the series, but I couldn't have been further from correct. In fact I enjoyed it the most out of all three. The story is long and convoluted yet every single thing happens for a reason. Each little detail is brought back and explained in a way that makes Neal Shusterman seem like a human on another level of existence. The mind he has to weave all of these details together is amazing. The ending filled my heart. I had grown to love each character so much I wanted the best for each of them. I am so glad he gave his creations the ending they deserved. Such a masterful balance of world-building, character arcs, and romance. Never was there a moment where I felt bored even when details were introduced that we wouldn't be able to comprehend for another 20 chapters or more. I was particularly moved by the cutting off of the Thunderhead. It was such a beautiful and melancholy moment. I never thought I could have grown so fond of an AI. Also, I am so glad to see Scythe Rand, who I despised, come into her own in a way that did not compromise her character. She is cold and calculating yet her act to fix the mistake that was her killing Tyger and bringing Goddard to life made me love her.
Ranking of the books: The Toll, Scythe, Thunderhead
Song:
Ranking of the books: The Toll, Scythe, Thunderhead
Song:
- Glory and Gore - Lorde
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death, Genocide, Gore, Gun violence, Hate crime, Suicide, Violence, Kidnapping, Grief, Mass/school shootings, Religious bigotry, Death of parent, Murder, Fire/Fire injury, and Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Confinement, Misogyny, Physical abuse, Terminal illness, Torture, and Medical content
Minor: Sexual content and War