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pidgepodge's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Graphic: Death, Gore, Physical abuse, Torture, Blood, Religious bigotry, Murder, Fire/Fire injury, War, and Injury/Injury detail
Minor: Genocide
callistag1's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
Graphic: Confinement, Death, Genocide, Mental illness, Torture, Violence, Blood, Murder, Fire/Fire injury, and Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Suicide and Toxic relationship
Minor: Body horror, Terminal illness, Medical content, and Religious bigotry
a_cera_t0ps's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.75
A big thing about this book was the pacing. The ending is built up to for the entirety of this book, yet it is crammed in with no proper send off. The last 100 pages holds the primary narrative. It feels like the author got carried away with the in-between scenes that he lost focus of the primary plot. Brief character exploration scenes and years worth exposition goes from being subservient to the story to becoming 93% of the text.
I know that Neal Shusterman is a wonderful author, and I can even see his excellence in this book as well. There are scenes and ideas that hit so hard, that deserve to be published and read, but there was just too much book for one book here. As the 3rd novel in a series, it's odd to me that it felt like the season of a TV show right before it's taken off the air, especially considering that, even though this book is the official finale, there was a spin-off book.
The reason I say I'm conflicted is because I enjoyed this book. But I was also weary and disappointed. I've read worse books than this and not minded, but the reason this one is so hard is because I see how it was imperfect and yet simultaneously almost perfect.
I don't want anyone to get the wrong idea and think that thid book sucked, or that Neal Shusterman is a bad or iffy writer. I think, to a certain degree, the panic and overwhelming nature that is portrayed in the story makes it as good as it is. I'm really just. .. well, conflicted.
Minor: Body horror, Death, Genocide, Gore, Physical abuse, Violence, Xenophobia, Blood, Police brutality, Grief, Religious bigotry, Murder, Fire/Fire injury, Gaslighting, and War
hales_1243's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? N/A
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
5.0
Graphic: Body horror, Child death, Death, Genocide, Gore, Gun violence, Hate crime, Homophobia, Physical abuse, Racism, Torture, Transphobia, Violence, Blood, Kidnapping, Grief, Religious bigotry, Murder, and Fire/Fire injury
Moderate: Adult/minor relationship, Cancer, Gun violence, Vomit, Gaslighting, and Abandonment
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- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
4.25
Graphic: Bullying, Confinement, Death, Genocide, Hate crime, Self harm, Terminal illness, Violence, Kidnapping, Grief, Religious bigotry, Murder, Gaslighting, Classism, and Pandemic/Epidemic
Moderate: Racism, Xenophobia, and Death of parent
Minor: Blood
allidone's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.0
Graphic: Bullying, Confinement, Death, Genocide, Gun violence, Mental illness, Grief, Religious bigotry, Death of parent, Murder, Fire/Fire injury, Colonisation, and Injury/Injury detail
rachelditty's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.75
It's about love and compassion. It's always been about love and compassion.
I think the only thing that keeps me from giving it 5 stars is that I don't love the dip in narration from Rowan toward the end when he's in the Lone Star region. I felt like he got a bit sidelined after he was nearly burned to death.
Reading about Scythe Faraday and Murina at the beginning, hearing the Thunderhead's siren but not understanding what it is, and knowing they're about to be marooned on a secluded island where no new will reach them, was incredible to read. It's upsetting and tense, and just like not knowing when Rowan and Citra will come back, you have no idea when Faraday and Murina will learn about Endura. And the whole time, Faraday has such hope and faith in Curie. It's so sad.
The Thunderhead really does evolve into one of my favorite characters in the series. It makes jokes to Grayson, who rolls his eyes but secretly finds them funny. Understanding the Thunderhead's thought process is so interesting and sympathetic to me. It monitors Grayson because it can't embrace him. It doesn't give him reassurance or scorns he doesn't need, but that doesn't mean it isn't afraid for the state of the world and the people on it. My favorite scene in the book is when Scythe Morrison comes to glean Grayson, and the Thunderhead has to work around its own programming to help Grayson escape. I love that it finds ways to sneak around the blind spots of its own rules. Chapter 23, "How to Glean a Holy Man," is my favorite chapter.
Scythe Constantine is such a gray character. You don't want to trust him because he's hunting Rowan in book two, but is also a confidant of Curie and Anastasia. When Rowan and Constantine see each other in this book, and Constantine is kind of gloating only for Rowan to respond with "I love you too" is such a fun dynamic. I would have loved to see more of them hating each other in a begrudgingly allied way.
The Mile High Gleaning is blood chilling. Watching Rowan succumb to the fact that he really will die in front of thousands of people, only for Goddard to turn everything on its head and glean the audience, is awful to watch. Rand tried to make things better, but she only made things worse. It's such a punctual point of Goddard's inability to return from this line of morality he's crossed, aside from Endura, and literally everything else that's talked about in this book.
Jericho was always such an interesting character to me. The captain was intelligent and loyal, and was always there to provide a sense of calm to the other characters. I loved Jericho's dynamic with Grayson, and with Anastasia, and having the captain be the one to be a middle-man for Grayson and the Thunderhead, and then be the character to bring up the idea of vessels, was such miniscule foreshadowing that was incredibly done. Even the similarity in Hello Grayson. It was just so well lined up. I'm glad Jericho and Grayson stayed together after everything.
I cannot even express how amazing I think the end of this book is, and the end of the series. The founding Scythe Da Vinci putting hints to the failsafe in not only a children's song, but the ENTIRE Tonist religion? The two prongs being the transmitter? The Tonist's putrid water of diseases being the ten diseases in everyone's nanites once the diamonds are destroyed? The fucking signal the transmitter lets out being a G-flat (or is it A-sharp?). It's all just so INCREDIBLY smart and well-rounded, I cannot believe it all comes together so seamlessly.
Grayson marking the Thunderhead as unsavory for what it did to Jericho, saying it, like humanity, can be redeemed in his eyes in time. Scythe Faraday and other scythes in his footsteps taking the chance to not choose people for death, but help them pass on in a calm and painless manner when they become sick, giving the family the chance to mourn and giving the person a fast passing. Rowan being there when Citra finally wakes up, after hundreds of years in space, having turned a corner so he looked the same to her. It's all about love. The whole series was just about humanity's compassion for one another and the love we show. It's so good. I cannot express how good it makes me feel by the end. It's about love. It's always been about love.
Quotes I Loved:
"'If the bar can't be lowered... then the floor must be raised,'" (p. 185).
"'Why stress my emotional inanities by thinking of terrible things?'
A fine philosophy until the terrible thing comes to you," (p. 217).
"'A successful lie is not fueled by the lair; it is fueled by the willingness of the listener to believe. You can't expose a lie without first shattering the will to believe it. That is why leading people to truth is so much more effective than merely telling them,'" (p. 308-309).
"The rest of the world saw them both as symbols. Intangible light to guide them in the darkness. She understood now why ancient peoples turned their heroes into constellations," (p. 444).
"If there was one thing Rowan had learned, it was that no one could be trusted to stay true. Ideals eroded, virtue tarnished, and even the high road had dimly lit detours," (p. 529).
"'Only a moment ago,' Rowan tells her. 'Only a moment ago,'" (p. 631).
What an incredible series.
Moderate: Death, Gore, Violence, Blood, Grief, Religious bigotry, Murder, and Injury/Injury detail
emilysreadingbooks's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.0
Graphic: Death, Racism, Terminal illness, Violence, Xenophobia, Religious bigotry, Murder, War, and Classism
Moderate: Genocide, Hate crime, Kidnapping, Grief, Fire/Fire injury, and Colonisation
Minor: Drug use
cepbreed's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
5.0
Ranking of the books: The Toll, Scythe, Thunderhead
Song:
- Glory and Gore - Lorde
Graphic: Death, Genocide, Gore, Gun violence, Hate crime, Suicide, Violence, Kidnapping, Grief, Mass/school shootings, Religious bigotry, Death of parent, Murder, Fire/Fire injury, and Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Confinement, Misogyny, Physical abuse, Terminal illness, Torture, and Medical content
Minor: Sexual content and War
alexhaydon's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Graphic: Religious bigotry and Murder