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lordhaku's review against another edition
challenging
dark
reflective
sad
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Adult/minor relationship, Cursing, Death, Mental illness, Sexual assault, Sexual content, Suicidal thoughts, Torture, Blood, Police brutality, Murder, and War
friesenag's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
emotional
funny
mysterious
reflective
sad
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.0
This book is so interesting considering that the author himself was a B25 bombardier and that this is not speculation and the plot isn't too far fetched because it is based on his personal experiences in the war. I think Heller perfectly balanced the humor of the absurdity of how the U.S. Air Force was run and the gruesomeness of what war does to a person. He highlights the silliness of rank and order and doing things just because you're told and how that has more control on weather a man lives or dies rather than his own actions and how those actions along with the trauma of their compatriots dying makes them all go insane.
The way Heller writes gave me a headache though, as the plot would go back and forth I had to keep my spark notes open to make sure I was really comprehending what was happening. The first half of the book there is no chronological order and the repetition of words, phrases, or actions also created maximum confusion. When I think about it more it definitely is a plot device to give the book a lack of structure and repeat things which gives the reader a sensation of the chaos that is occurring in every single characters brains and on the base. Insanity and deja vu are major plot points in the book and I think Heller wanted to amplify it in the readers, which did give me the feeling that I was going crazy while reading this book. I see the genius and deliberate work that he put into it, but that does not mean I have to enjoy it.
I want to preface this last part by saying I know that this guy is like a boomer and it was written in 1961, but the MISOGYNY in this book was APPALLING. Women were only mentioned in a sexual connotation and used as a plot device and weren't really well thought out in my opinion. There was a character that wasn't even given a name and just referred to as "Nately's Whore" the whole time and she was bored and not interested in Nately until he "saved her" and then tried to control her and THEN he DIED and all of a sudden she cared enough about him to try to kill Yossarian???? Idk, there was just not a single female character that wasn't a sex object or stupid or a plot device.
Overall this book is good on the pretense that it was anti-war and the structure of the book makes you feel sick to your stomach, much like the structure of war and American bureaucracy, but I can't look past the misogyny, sexism, racism, etc. to give this more than three stars. I know I'm looking at this in a modern lens but there's not way I can separate the good and bad of this book. I would be very concerned if a man said this was their favorite book, its definitely an interesting read but I would classify it as pretty problematic.
The way Heller writes gave me a headache though, as the plot would go back and forth I had to keep my spark notes open to make sure I was really comprehending what was happening. The first half of the book there is no chronological order and the repetition of words, phrases, or actions also created maximum confusion. When I think about it more it definitely is a plot device to give the book a lack of structure and repeat things which gives the reader a sensation of the chaos that is occurring in every single characters brains and on the base. Insanity and deja vu are major plot points in the book and I think Heller wanted to amplify it in the readers, which did give me the feeling that I was going crazy while reading this book. I see the genius and deliberate work that he put into it, but that does not mean I have to enjoy it.
I want to preface this last part by saying I know that this guy is like a boomer and it was written in 1961, but the MISOGYNY in this book was APPALLING. Women were only mentioned in a sexual connotation and used as a plot device and weren't really well thought out in my opinion. There was a character that wasn't even given a name and just referred to as "Nately's Whore" the whole time and she was bored and not interested in Nately until he "saved her" and then tried to control her and THEN he DIED and all of a sudden she cared enough about him to try to kill Yossarian???? Idk, there was just not a single female character that wasn't a sex object or stupid or a plot device.
Overall this book is good on the pretense that it was anti-war and the structure of the book makes you feel sick to your stomach, much like the structure of war and American bureaucracy, but I can't look past the misogyny, sexism, racism, etc. to give this more than three stars. I know I'm looking at this in a modern lens but there's not way I can separate the good and bad of this book. I would be very concerned if a man said this was their favorite book, its definitely an interesting read but I would classify it as pretty problematic.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death, Gore, Misogyny, Racial slurs, Sexism, Sexual assault, Suicide, Violence, Vomit, Schizophrenia/Psychosis , Sexual harassment, and War
Moderate: Antisemitism, Grief, Fire/Fire injury, and Gaslighting
Minor: Infidelity, Mental illness, Misogyny, Medical content, Medical trauma, Alcohol, and Classism
tildafin16's review against another edition
dark
funny
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
2.0
This is my husband’s favourite he told me he read it all in one day drinking on the beach (how??) and still remembers it all. Apart from showing you how different my taste is to my husband 🤣, this also clearly is the experience of many fans.
For me, I just don’t enjoy absurdist and repetitive writing; I was assured that it all comes together in the final third and becomes amazing; well, yeah, I guess I can see that , but by that time having slugged 300 plus pages of complex, constantly trying-to-be-funny-and-clever, absurd wordplay - I just didn’t care that much anymore and the impact of the ending section was lessened for me. I have read such gruesome depictions of war elsewhere and been able to immerse myself in the writing but for me, I just couldn’t with this. There was one scene with Milo Minderbinder (the names made me want to scream) that made me laugh, I didn’t laugh out loud often as lots of folk have. (And it’s easy to make me laugh! This is just not my humour)
Finally as many have mentioned the depiction of female characters is just appalling. If he was making a point (and I am not convinced he really was) by this, then he succeeded in rendering all of his main male characters including his hero, absolute arseholes in that regard.
I always feel bad when I dislike such well loved novels but in that regard this is way up there with Walden (shudder) and Life of Pi for me.
For me, I just don’t enjoy absurdist and repetitive writing; I was assured that it all comes together in the final third and becomes amazing; well, yeah, I guess I can see that , but by that time having slugged 300 plus pages of complex, constantly trying-to-be-funny-and-clever, absurd wordplay - I just didn’t care that much anymore and the impact of the ending section was lessened for me. I have read such gruesome depictions of war elsewhere and been able to immerse myself in the writing but for me, I just couldn’t with this. There was one scene with Milo Minderbinder (the names made me want to scream) that made me laugh, I didn’t laugh out loud often as lots of folk have. (And it’s easy to make me laugh! This is just not my humour)
Finally as many have mentioned the depiction of female characters is just appalling. If he was making a point (and I am not convinced he really was) by this, then he succeeded in rendering all of his main male characters including his hero, absolute arseholes in that regard.
I always feel bad when I dislike such well loved novels but in that regard this is way up there with Walden (shudder) and Life of Pi for me.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death, Rape, Sexism, Sexual assault, Violence, Sexual harassment, and War
addictedtoanntations's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
funny
mysterious
reflective
tense
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
absolutely adored this book. It takes risks, is raw, dark, satirical, funny, with the wittiest dialogue I’ve ever read. It doesn’t shy away from showing grit, and morally questionable sides of war, from violence, to how institutions are run, to prostitution. To this day it draws parallels to flaws in today’s society which was refreshing, eye-opening, and terrifying all into one. Phenomenal.
Content Warnings
Moderate: Cursing, Racial slurs, Sexual content, Violence, and War
Minor: Sexual assault and Terminal illness
whoischels's review against another edition
dark
funny
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.0
Probably the most chaotic book I've ever read. I can't say I've read a book that ignores sequential time so thoroughly. Heller jumps between events gracefully. You'll often find that the narrator begins to recount something that happened quite far in the future or past of the camp on Pianosa, but you don't quite develop an understanding of how distant future and past are until you've reached the end and various characters have died off and been replaced by new, untrauma-ed characters. The manipulation of time is breathtaking and exciting once you look back and think about what you've read. I'm surprised I haven't heard this book being discussed in the context of other time bending books, like To the Lighthouse, perhaps I just haven't been listening closely enough about why people read this book.
As the classic comedy of war book, it's a very comedic read. The comedic style throughout the whole thing undergoes its own character development in a way that is quite satisfying. It works to keep the horror of the experience of war at arm's length for the majority of the book and then slowly brings it closer for the end. Heller captures the comedic dichotomy between the very visceral body horror that people experience at war and the slow machine of bureaucracy.
My only complaints are that it's a behemoth to read. Heller can be describing an event that is comedic in its conception, but do so in a way that obstructs feeling, particularly in the first 2/3. I understand this to be intentional, but was still a bit frustrated with the masculine boringness of the prose. It's an odd experience to read something that has these features but still manages to be so dynamic and flexible in its plot structure.
As the classic comedy of war book, it's a very comedic read. The comedic style throughout the whole thing undergoes its own character development in a way that is quite satisfying. It works to keep the horror of the experience of war at arm's length for the majority of the book and then slowly brings it closer for the end. Heller captures the comedic dichotomy between the very visceral body horror that people experience at war and the slow machine of bureaucracy.
My only complaints are that it's a behemoth to read. Heller can be describing an event that is comedic in its conception, but do so in a way that obstructs feeling, particularly in the first 2/3. I understand this to be intentional, but was still a bit frustrated with the masculine boringness of the prose. It's an odd experience to read something that has these features but still manages to be so dynamic and flexible in its plot structure.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death, Panic attacks/disorders, Medical trauma, Sexual harassment, War, and Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Misogyny and Sexual assault
nnannanna's review against another edition
challenging
dark
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
2.0
I get the point of the book. I finally liked what I was reading at chapter 39. The book is a satiricak telling of men fighting in a fictional war in a fictional island. It goes to detail on how ridiculous the war and the people in the war is and shows us a good deal of sides and views on the matters. However this makes the book extremely repetitive and slow paced. Same stories are told again and again, through so many characters I stopped being able to keep track of them. I didn't need 38 chapters to finally like one.
The way Joseph Heller writes isn't to my liking in the slightest. The explanations of events are verbose, jumping from place to place and character to character. You start a chapter from a plane in the middle of a war and end it in a fully unrelated story that happened 10 years prior. Finally I gave up on trying to understand everything and just plowed through to reach the end.
Lastly the role of women in the book was just... Not? Every single female character is somehow connected to sex. Either they're a sex worker, a nurse that gets sexually assaulted or somehow sex is written into their description. Maybe there is a point to this and it belongs to the satire but I did not catch that.
The way Joseph Heller writes isn't to my liking in the slightest. The explanations of events are verbose, jumping from place to place and character to character. You start a chapter from a plane in the middle of a war and end it in a fully unrelated story that happened 10 years prior. Finally I gave up on trying to understand everything and just plowed through to reach the end.
Lastly the role of women in the book was just... Not? Every single female character is somehow connected to sex. Either they're a sex worker, a nurse that gets sexually assaulted or somehow sex is written into their description. Maybe there is a point to this and it belongs to the satire but I did not catch that.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Sexism, Sexual assault, War, and Injury/Injury detail
bellaklimperauge's review against another edition
challenging
dark
emotional
reflective
sad
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
Content Warnings
Moderate: Death, Rape, Sexism, Sexual assault, Sexual violence, Murder, and War
seanml's review against another edition
challenging
dark
funny
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.25
Reading anything called a ‘classic’ is a gamble; you don’t have to go too far back for them to be super problematic. In this instance, Joseph Heller’s Catch-22 ended up being a mixed bag. It’s a comedy novel that takes place during World War II, and was written in the 1960s. It is very much a product of its time. The book is “clever,” but clever in the way that a high school freshman would ask you “Is water wet?” and then once you answer they’re prepared to argue the complete opposite point in order to confuse you. In Catch-22 the military is basically run by the Marx Brothers: misunderstandings are frequent, and nothing is safe from being a gag to the point of death. Each chapter is in a way a skit focusing on a soldier or a commander, one of the handful that the book revolves around. They range from entertaining to infuriating. Luckily our protagonist is a soldier named Yossarian who happens to be the only sensical character throughout the entire thing. So as I went crazy from the never-ending chapters, Yossarian was right there with me. Unfortunately, I couldn’t relate to him in the chapter when he sexually assaults a nurse out of the blue. Yeah, this is the 1960s and every female character has at least one line about the shape of their breasts. This does not in any way pass the Bechdel test. In any case, the book does a good job at portraying the mania-fueled spiral of someone told to die for the good of their country again and again and again. Did I misunderstand most of it? Maybe. Should I read it again? Maybe, it depends on if it was good. Was it good? I’d have to read it again. Catch-22. 6.5/10.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death, Gore, Panic attacks/disorders, Sexism, and Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Adult/minor relationship, Alcoholism, Animal cruelty, Body horror, Confinement, Cursing, Gun violence, Infertility, Mental illness, Misogyny, Physical abuse, Racism, Rape, Sexual assault, Torture, Vomit, Medical content, Grief, Murder, Gaslighting, Alcohol, and War
Minor: Cannibalism
cgreg's review against another edition
dark
funny
tense
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Diverse cast of characters? No
5.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death and War
Moderate: Misogyny and Sexual assault
bekahhinson's review against another edition
3.0
Oh my god this book would be like 4.5 stars if it wasn’t so fucking disgusting towards women. Why the hell was it necessary to include SO MANY scenes of the men groping women in public sexually assaulting/raping them? Not to mention there’s no justice, no return to that narrative to assert that those types of actions are wrong, and all of them do it so it’s not like you can claim an unreliable narrator situation. Additionally I don’t care if it’s not the authors true opinion on the matter because it happened so much that is felt like he was writing it because he doesn’t think it’s wrong. Fuck you joseph heller. Next time you write a good book simply exclude women if you can’t resist writing in an SA scene.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Misogyny, Sexual assault, and Sexual harassment
Moderate: Rape and Gaslighting