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This is Pleasure by Mary Gaitskill

rainbowfishy's review against another edition

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2.0

hmmm i just don't know. i really appreciate this level of nuance but i don't feel like this super short story is the best exploration of it

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challenging dark emotional informative reflective sad medium-paced

kristenvhewl's review against another edition

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dark emotional reflective sad fast-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Character
  • Strong character development? No
  • Loveable characters? No
  • Diverse cast of characters? No
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

5.0

A fast paced exploration of internalized misogyny as it reveals itself within woman as her close male friend is accused of sexual misconduct. 

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dark fast-paced
  • Strong character development? No
  • Loveable characters? No
  • Diverse cast of characters? No

2.5

This is pleasure is about Quin, a man who has been accused by several women of sexual assault and Margot a friend of his who is trying to make sense of the accusations.

We get a perspective of both POVs, Quin’s and Margot’s. We see how both of them try to excuse the behavior as “normal”, and while Quin shows no remorse that doesn’t apply to Margot.

This book discusses interesting topics such as “what is considered sexual assault?”; “How far does consent go?”; “What does it mean for the women associated with the accused to remain by their side?”; “Are these women victims themselves?” and it does show that these cases are not black and white, there’s a lot of grey areas, especially regarding the women associated with these men.

With that being said. What did I just read?

“You didn’t touch her, did you? I mean, sexually?” I had not. Just sometimes on the shoulder, or around the waist. Maybe on the knee or the hip. Affection. Not sex. 
(…) 
She said, “If it wasn’t sexual, you don’t have anything to worry about.” 
“But it could be made to sound sexual. Or just—she claims it cost her months of therapy bills.” 
Margot laughed again, more meanly—I’m not sure at whom.

The book props the question: What is sexual assault? But never really bothers to answer it. The reader has to draw their own conclusion. Of course that, we as women, know that the interaction above that the two characters are referring to is sexual assault. However who is this book for? If it doesn’t go deeper than the surface on the topic, nor does it answer the questions it proposes, so again I ask who is this book for? Not for women, because we know what these things are, and not for men because it won’t teach them anything, as these questions are unanswered I remain confused.

We could spend whole lunches analyzing her behavior, particularly why she wouldn’t let him stroke her back or even take her elbow to guide her through a room. It was the same conversation, over and over: I lectured about respect and boundaries; he wondered how someone could be so “precious” about herself and declared that he would never refuse the needs of a friend.

Is this book supposed to encourage us, as women to explain to our male friends that we do not welcome foreign touch and why that’s weird? Odd message to send, but I digress. Margot goes to absolute lenghts to justify Quin’s repeated weird behavior towards women. It’s truly horrifying to read. The internalised misogyny really shines in this book (which is one of the most interesting parts in my opinion).

When I say to my colleagues that the women should have just told Quin to stop, that I had told him to stop and had made him stop, they inevitably tell me that the power was disproportionately his, and that even if in theory the women could have pushed back they should not be expected to, they shouldn’t have to.

At least we have a little development in this topic, but it’s never explored further because the book just ends. I really believe the book could have been longer (and i never say this) because it would’ve been more fleshed out and could start really interesting conversations that way.

I still leaned on him for support and counsel. I was like the women who didn’t stop him and who acted like his friends even as they grew angrier and angrier. It wasn’t because he had more power than I did; that didn’t really matter. And it wasn’t because I’m like a horse. I don’t know why I behaved the way I did, and I kept doing it; he kept doing it.

To me the conclusion Margot reaches is the best part of the book even though it left me wanting more. The book proposes many questions but only answers to one: “Are these women associated with the abusers ,victims themselves?”

However its still lacking because this only goes on for a page and this was the crucial part of the novel.

Being in Quin’s head was interesting as it was disgusting, it gives us great insight into the mind of an abuser who is able to manipulate all the people around him. However it doesn’t matter because in the end he suffers little consequences. Yes he’s fired but the narrative is constantly arguing with the reader that it is wrong, that despite everything he’s a good man. The end of the book was just … no I’m still mad.

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sljbook's review against another edition

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reflective sad medium-paced

3.5

roomiewood's review against another edition

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challenging reflective fast-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? A mix
  • Strong character development? Yes
  • Loveable characters? It's complicated
  • Diverse cast of characters? No
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.0

maaayy's review against another edition

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reflective fast-paced
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3.5

htucker01's review against another edition

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3.0

super short book that shows the view of a man who was torn down during the me too movement and his female friend who stands by him. offered a different pov by letting us see the accused’s side and his mindset while performing the actions now labeled as abuse. i do think he was a weirdo and sometimes reading his pov just pissed me off but i also understood margot’s view on their friendship and who he has been for her. interesting read but i wish it had been longer to get more info maybe

enzsch's review against another edition

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reflective fast-paced
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4.0

This was cool but I dont think it quite hit the way that I wanted it to. I am finding it difficult to remember much about what happened even though I only read it a week ago. I think it was quite a good portrayal but I think I was expecting it to be more cutting. Beautiful aesthetically though and it definitely does pack a punch for such a small book

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challenging dark emotional reflective sad medium-paced
  • Plot- or character-driven? Character
  • Strong character development? No
  • Loveable characters? No
  • Diverse cast of characters? No
  • Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes

4.0