casthedragon's review against another edition
informative
reflective
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? N/A
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? N/A
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
2.75
Er waren een paar interessante punten maar voor de rest was het nogal veel van hetzelfde.
leelulah's review against another edition
5.0
Sorprendente para la época, pero muestra que los derechos de la mujer se pueden y deben sostener desde la ortodoxia católica. Cristina de Pizán escribe una alegoría al modo dantesco, o quizás más propio de Tomás Moro. La ciudad de las damas será construida y habitada por damas ilustres de todos los tiempos, que han probado el prejuicio de los hombres como contrario a la razón y a la naturaleza. Dividido en tres partes, Razón, Derechura y Justicia se encargan de hacerle ver a la autora-protagonista, cuántas mujeres míticas-paganas-santas han contribuido a la historia y salvado innumerables vidas a través del ejercicio de las armas, virtudes intelectuales, y el amor a sus esposos. También se encarga de rechazar el mito de una violación buscada y/o querida.
Algunos de los argumentos quizá dejarían perplejas a las corrientes feministas contemporáneas, ya que argumenta que el llanto no es debilidad de las mujeres, sino parte de la condición humana, ya que Cristo lloró por Lázaro, y del mismo modo María, María Madgalena son propuestas como ejemplo de virtud femenina.
Algunos de los argumentos quizá dejarían perplejas a las corrientes feministas contemporáneas, ya que argumenta que el llanto no es debilidad de las mujeres, sino parte de la condición humana, ya que Cristo lloró por Lázaro, y del mismo modo María, María Madgalena son propuestas como ejemplo de virtud femenina.
nickfourtimes's review against another edition
3.0
1) "One day, I was sitting in my study surrounded by many books of different kinds, for it has long been in my habit to engage in the pursuit of knowledge. My mind had grown weary as I had spent the day struggling with the weighty tomes of various authors whom I had been studying for some time. I looked up from my book and decided that, for once, I would put aside these difficult texts and find instead something amusing and easy to read from the works of the poets."
2) "'In the course of the battle against Odoacer, the tide of fortune turned against Theodoric who, out of fear for his life, had to flee the scene of battle and make for the city of Ravenna. When his brave, wise mother, who had been watching the conflict closely, saw her son turn tail, her sorrow knew no bounds since, to her mind, a knight could commit no greater sin than to run from battle. Her noble instincts made her put aside all motherly compassion as she would have preferred to see her son die a valiant death than cover himself in such shame. She ran directly to him and implored him not to dishonour himself in this way but instead to rally his troops once more and return to the battlefield. However, as her words appeared to be having no effect on him, she fell into a great rage and lifted up her skirts, saying: 'My dear son, there is no place left for you to hide except my womb, so you should climb back up inside immediately!' Theodoric was so shamefaced that he turned on his heel, gathered his troops together and went back to fight.'"
3) "Having listened to what Reason said, I answered, 'My lady, God truly performed wonders by endowing these women you've just been telling me about with such extraordinary powers. But, if you don't mind, please tell me if, amongst all the other favours He has shown to women, God ever chose to honour any of them with great intelligence and knowledge. Do they indeed have an aptitude for learning? I'd really like to know why it is that men claim women to be so slow-witted.'
Reason's reply was: 'Christine, from what I've already told you, it should be obvious that the opposite of what they say is true. To make the point more clearly for you, I'll give you some conclusive examples. I repeat – and don't doubt my word – that if it were the custom to send little girls to school and to teach them all sorts of different subjects there, as one does with little boys, they would grasp and learn the difficulties of all the arts and sciences just as easily as the boys do.
[...]
Now can you understand the terrible ingratitude of those men who say such things? It's as if they're enjoying all the benefits without having any idea of where they come from or whom they should thank for them.'"
4) "I, Christine, came back to her again, saying: 'My lady, you're quite right. Yet I'm convinced that there will be plenty of dissenting voices raised against this very text. They'll say that, though some women of the past or the present might be virtuous, this isn't the case with all of them, or even the vast majority.'
Rectitude answered, 'It's just not true to say that the vast majority aren't virtuous. This is clearly proven by what I've said to you before: experience tells us that anyone can see for themselves, on any day of the week, how pious and full of charity and goodness women are. Not to mention the fact that it isn't women who are responsible for all the endless crimes and atrocities that are committed in the world. It's hardly surprising if not every single one of them is virtuous. [...] To think that men dare to say that all women should be virtuous or that those who aren't should be stoned! I would ask them to take a good look at themselves and then let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Moreover, to what kind of behaviour should they themselves aspire? I tell you, the day that all men attain perfection, women will follow their example.'"
5) "My dear ladies, remember how these men accuse you of being weak, flighty and easily led, and yet still use the most convoluted, outlandish and bizarre methods they can think of to trap you, just as one would a wild animal. Fly, fly from them, my ladies! Have nothing to do with such men beneath whose smiling looks a lethal venom is concealed, one which will poison you to death. Instead, my most honoured ladies, may it please you to pursue virtue and shun vice, thus increasing in number the inhabitants of our city. Let your hearts rejoice in doing good. I, your servant, commend myself to you. I beg the Lord to shine His grace upon me and to allow me to carry on devoting my life to His holy service here on earth. May He pardon my great faults and grant me everlasting joy when I die, and may He do likewise unto you. Amen."
2) "'In the course of the battle against Odoacer, the tide of fortune turned against Theodoric who, out of fear for his life, had to flee the scene of battle and make for the city of Ravenna. When his brave, wise mother, who had been watching the conflict closely, saw her son turn tail, her sorrow knew no bounds since, to her mind, a knight could commit no greater sin than to run from battle. Her noble instincts made her put aside all motherly compassion as she would have preferred to see her son die a valiant death than cover himself in such shame. She ran directly to him and implored him not to dishonour himself in this way but instead to rally his troops once more and return to the battlefield. However, as her words appeared to be having no effect on him, she fell into a great rage and lifted up her skirts, saying: 'My dear son, there is no place left for you to hide except my womb, so you should climb back up inside immediately!' Theodoric was so shamefaced that he turned on his heel, gathered his troops together and went back to fight.'"
3) "Having listened to what Reason said, I answered, 'My lady, God truly performed wonders by endowing these women you've just been telling me about with such extraordinary powers. But, if you don't mind, please tell me if, amongst all the other favours He has shown to women, God ever chose to honour any of them with great intelligence and knowledge. Do they indeed have an aptitude for learning? I'd really like to know why it is that men claim women to be so slow-witted.'
Reason's reply was: 'Christine, from what I've already told you, it should be obvious that the opposite of what they say is true. To make the point more clearly for you, I'll give you some conclusive examples. I repeat – and don't doubt my word – that if it were the custom to send little girls to school and to teach them all sorts of different subjects there, as one does with little boys, they would grasp and learn the difficulties of all the arts and sciences just as easily as the boys do.
[...]
Now can you understand the terrible ingratitude of those men who say such things? It's as if they're enjoying all the benefits without having any idea of where they come from or whom they should thank for them.'"
4) "I, Christine, came back to her again, saying: 'My lady, you're quite right. Yet I'm convinced that there will be plenty of dissenting voices raised against this very text. They'll say that, though some women of the past or the present might be virtuous, this isn't the case with all of them, or even the vast majority.'
Rectitude answered, 'It's just not true to say that the vast majority aren't virtuous. This is clearly proven by what I've said to you before: experience tells us that anyone can see for themselves, on any day of the week, how pious and full of charity and goodness women are. Not to mention the fact that it isn't women who are responsible for all the endless crimes and atrocities that are committed in the world. It's hardly surprising if not every single one of them is virtuous. [...] To think that men dare to say that all women should be virtuous or that those who aren't should be stoned! I would ask them to take a good look at themselves and then let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Moreover, to what kind of behaviour should they themselves aspire? I tell you, the day that all men attain perfection, women will follow their example.'"
5) "My dear ladies, remember how these men accuse you of being weak, flighty and easily led, and yet still use the most convoluted, outlandish and bizarre methods they can think of to trap you, just as one would a wild animal. Fly, fly from them, my ladies! Have nothing to do with such men beneath whose smiling looks a lethal venom is concealed, one which will poison you to death. Instead, my most honoured ladies, may it please you to pursue virtue and shun vice, thus increasing in number the inhabitants of our city. Let your hearts rejoice in doing good. I, your servant, commend myself to you. I beg the Lord to shine His grace upon me and to allow me to carry on devoting my life to His holy service here on earth. May He pardon my great faults and grant me everlasting joy when I die, and may He do likewise unto you. Amen."
firerosearien's review against another edition
A must-read for anyone studying the middle ages, and a window into what medieval feminism looked like.
For entertainment purposes, I'd probably skip part III unless Catholic saints lives are important/entertaining to you.
For entertainment purposes, I'd probably skip part III unless Catholic saints lives are important/entertaining to you.
mckenzierichardson's review against another edition
3.0
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Overall, I found this to be an interesting read. I enjoyed the entire concept of the work and it was fascinating to see the cultural shifts that have taken place since the book was originally written.
I think the first book was the strongest and most interesting. It goes through various historical and mythological women and their feats of strength, bravery, and intelligence. The other two sections kind of peter out into very long discussions of various Christian women, virgins, and martyrs, which I found to be less persuasive in argument. But the first section was very good. I liked the use of examples to disprove men's false claims.
This edition was easy to understand. Some of the sections get repetitive (especially in the third book), but overall the book was an interesting look at very, very, very, very early feminism.
Overall, I found this to be an interesting read. I enjoyed the entire concept of the work and it was fascinating to see the cultural shifts that have taken place since the book was originally written.
I think the first book was the strongest and most interesting. It goes through various historical and mythological women and their feats of strength, bravery, and intelligence. The other two sections kind of peter out into very long discussions of various Christian women, virgins, and martyrs, which I found to be less persuasive in argument. But the first section was very good. I liked the use of examples to disprove men's false claims.
This edition was easy to understand. Some of the sections get repetitive (especially in the third book), but overall the book was an interesting look at very, very, very, very early feminism.
nataliagaytann's review against another edition
challenging
reflective
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
3.25
hygrpfrt's review against another edition
informative
reflective
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? N/A
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.5