bulbasaurusthe7th's review against another edition
3.0
3,5 stars
I did not love this book nearly as much as I expected it and that's kind of sad, as I love Ketty Jay and I was very excited about this book. So why is that?
Ossia is a country taken over by the Krodan empire. If you cooperate you can do quite well, though still being considered second class, but rebellion is not tolerated and everything is heavily regulated. Aren is the son of an Ossian minor lord who fits in so they live a pretty great life, having fun with his best friend, the commoner boy Cade. Up until he starts dating a Krodan girl and so he gets his father in trouble as well, which ends with his whole life going to hell, with both him and Cade ending up in a prison work camp.
From there they get involved with rebels who try to get the artefact symbolic of the Ossian royalty (currently in the hands of the Krodans), the Ember Blade.
If you are writing a long book you have to make it worth being so long. Justify me going through all of that. Here some parts were extremely dynamic and fun, but some others felt like overlong and that was especially annoying when you KNEW this wasn't the end. The characters are in prison for some time at the beginning. Do you believe this is how they die if there are 650 pages left? No. No, you don't. So basically the immense length in a way took away a lot of the initial pressure, because PFFT, you can't kill them off so early. At this point it's inevitable, I guess, but still, personally I would have thought it better to make this book shorter, partly by cutting some things, partly by dividing the story into volumes differently, though we don't have book 2 yet, so I can't speak about that.
Some element returning from the Ketty Jay is the fact we have a ragtag team of individuals with different agendas working for the same end goal, which is a thing I like, though I preferred the kind of more comical people from KJ. Here the comic relief was provided by Cade and Grub, the bragging barbarian they pick up on the way. Sorely needed, really, as many dark things happen and the story itself is very serious. Similar feeling as with the author Sebastien De Castell, whose humour I loved in his first series, but it completely missed from the second. A waste, I feel as for both De Castell and Wooding I feel they do truly have a skill for snappy fun many authors try and fail at realising. Oh well.
Tonally still dark, but another character I need to specifically mention is Vika. Wandering druidess, trying to reconnect with her gods. She is taking part in the main conflict of the story, while also she knows there is an even bigger, supernatural danger coming, which will need the attention of the other people eventually. (Her dog is cute too.)
The other end of the spectrum; Mara. Oh, Mara. She is so much smarter than everyone, wonderful oppressed rich woman. She is doing what she is doing because she wants more glory for herself. Her character is just such an annoyance to me. Cade, the son of a carpenter was sent to a freaking prison camp among abysmal conditions because he dared to speak up and she still believes men have it so much better because women are wives and she herself couldn't become famous. I... okay? I find she embodies the typical rich woman living in way more comfort than she understands. End of my rant.
My big issue is how I felt the ideas and the chapters of the book had some pretty big differences in quality. Some were very interesting and entertaining, some others just the same old and nowhere near as clever as they were sold to me. (Fen, Keel's background story, the whole Mara thing... Just give me more Vika instead.)
There was a big theme I liked as well. Basically just because you like what someone does in the grand scheme of things you won't necessarily get on well with them as people. There is the conflict of what you are willing to take and accept for the bigger pictures vs. what is unacceptable and intolerable to you no matter what the end is. Do you really know people based on personal experiences with them? Does the context of them as people matter? Their past deeds, controversial and maybe even considered as mistakes?
Same went for the Kordans. You have to admit that they are doing certain things right; they can work together. You are supposed to root for the Ossian side and still, they are the type of people who have an issue with organising and working as a unit without infighting. In that sense it's understandable why they fell, because we are shown the issues in their society. They did weaknesses, they weren't overtaken through some magical intervention or "cheating" like that, it's comprehensible.
I'm going to read book 2. I'm not super mega excited about it, I probably won't throw myself at it at light speed, but I guess the interesting things are good enough for me, though I hope it will be a bit shorter, maybe around the 600 pages mark? I think it would benefit from that. I'm not going to super enthusiastically recommend it to anyone willing to listen to my blabbering, though I will probably mention it when relevant. So far I feel it's kind of meh, middle of the flock stuff. Not the single greatest way to start my year as far as reading goes. Oh well.
I did not love this book nearly as much as I expected it and that's kind of sad, as I love Ketty Jay and I was very excited about this book. So why is that?
Ossia is a country taken over by the Krodan empire. If you cooperate you can do quite well, though still being considered second class, but rebellion is not tolerated and everything is heavily regulated. Aren is the son of an Ossian minor lord who fits in so they live a pretty great life, having fun with his best friend, the commoner boy Cade. Up until he starts dating a Krodan girl and so he gets his father in trouble as well, which ends with his whole life going to hell, with both him and Cade ending up in a prison work camp.
From there they get involved with rebels who try to get the artefact symbolic of the Ossian royalty (currently in the hands of the Krodans), the Ember Blade.
If you are writing a long book you have to make it worth being so long. Justify me going through all of that. Here some parts were extremely dynamic and fun, but some others felt like overlong and that was especially annoying when you KNEW this wasn't the end. The characters are in prison for some time at the beginning. Do you believe this is how they die if there are 650 pages left? No. No, you don't. So basically the immense length in a way took away a lot of the initial pressure, because PFFT, you can't kill them off so early. At this point it's inevitable, I guess, but still, personally I would have thought it better to make this book shorter, partly by cutting some things, partly by dividing the story into volumes differently, though we don't have book 2 yet, so I can't speak about that.
Some element returning from the Ketty Jay is the fact we have a ragtag team of individuals with different agendas working for the same end goal, which is a thing I like, though I preferred the kind of more comical people from KJ. Here the comic relief was provided by Cade and Grub, the bragging barbarian they pick up on the way. Sorely needed, really, as many dark things happen and the story itself is very serious. Similar feeling as with the author Sebastien De Castell, whose humour I loved in his first series, but it completely missed from the second. A waste, I feel as for both De Castell and Wooding I feel they do truly have a skill for snappy fun many authors try and fail at realising. Oh well.
Tonally still dark, but another character I need to specifically mention is Vika. Wandering druidess, trying to reconnect with her gods. She is taking part in the main conflict of the story, while also she knows there is an even bigger, supernatural danger coming, which will need the attention of the other people eventually. (Her dog is cute too.)
The other end of the spectrum; Mara. Oh, Mara. She is so much smarter than everyone, wonderful oppressed rich woman. She is doing what she is doing because she wants more glory for herself. Her character is just such an annoyance to me. Cade, the son of a carpenter was sent to a freaking prison camp among abysmal conditions because he dared to speak up and she still believes men have it so much better because women are wives and she herself couldn't become famous. I... okay? I find she embodies the typical rich woman living in way more comfort than she understands. End of my rant.
My big issue is how I felt the ideas and the chapters of the book had some pretty big differences in quality. Some were very interesting and entertaining, some others just the same old and nowhere near as clever as they were sold to me. (Fen, Keel's background story, the whole Mara thing... Just give me more Vika instead.)
There was a big theme I liked as well. Basically just because you like what someone does in the grand scheme of things you won't necessarily get on well with them as people. There is the conflict of what you are willing to take and accept for the bigger pictures vs. what is unacceptable and intolerable to you no matter what the end is. Do you really know people based on personal experiences with them? Does the context of them as people matter? Their past deeds, controversial and maybe even considered as mistakes?
Same went for the Kordans. You have to admit that they are doing certain things right; they can work together. You are supposed to root for the Ossian side and still, they are the type of people who have an issue with organising and working as a unit without infighting. In that sense it's understandable why they fell, because we are shown the issues in their society. They did weaknesses, they weren't overtaken through some magical intervention or "cheating" like that, it's comprehensible.
I'm going to read book 2. I'm not super mega excited about it, I probably won't throw myself at it at light speed, but I guess the interesting things are good enough for me, though I hope it will be a bit shorter, maybe around the 600 pages mark? I think it would benefit from that. I'm not going to super enthusiastically recommend it to anyone willing to listen to my blabbering, though I will probably mention it when relevant. So far I feel it's kind of meh, middle of the flock stuff. Not the single greatest way to start my year as far as reading goes. Oh well.
vayar's review against another edition
adventurous
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
By gods this one was long. Literally long and long in terms of storyline and pacing. It came close to putting me in a slump, but I pushed through and got a good finale for my efforts. I have no idea if I will read the sequel.
It may not sound like a 4/5 book so far, but I just couldn't give it less. There's absolutely nothing wrong with The Ember Blade. The theme is sound, if done to death, there's character development and a good number of twists. The writing style is solid, the storyline mature and well thought-through. For all that, I couldn't bring myself to care. I can't pinpoint it, but at some point I failed to connect with the characters and it impacted my enjoyment of the first two-thirds of the book.
By all means, give it a chance. But if you're not into it by the end of the camp arc (you'll know) be wiser than me and dnf it.
It may not sound like a 4/5 book so far, but I just couldn't give it less. There's absolutely nothing wrong with The Ember Blade. The theme is sound, if done to death, there's character development and a good number of twists. The writing style is solid, the storyline mature and well thought-through. For all that, I couldn't bring myself to care. I can't pinpoint it, but at some point I failed to connect with the characters and it impacted my enjoyment of the first two-thirds of the book.
By all means, give it a chance. But if you're not into it by the end of the camp arc (you'll know) be wiser than me and dnf it.
tsunni's review against another edition
I think the pacing is a huge problem. From the very early start, the endgame for the main characters and the Ember Blade was already telegraphed, but the plot spends an eternity getting to the standard traditional fantasy beats. When it does deviate from the expected and seems to be doing something new, it ultimately never provides anything interesting in those tangents; the plot meanders but with no real impact to to the main plot or to characterization.
The second problem was that the main viewpoint characters were mostly uninteresting even with all the excessive time spent on fleshing them out. The characters that I wanted to know more about -- like Fen and Vika -- are relegated to supporting roles in service of the main cast and to move the plot along. The ones I didn't need to know more about get a lot of dedicated time that doesn't change enough.
I kept with it up to 51% because there's a lot to like here; in particular the soft magic, the conflicting religious systems, the Ossians and other conquered people struggling to survive the systematic erasure of their culture by the Krodans. But the writing keeps piquing my interesting and disappointing me with where it goes. Struggled hard with continuing, but ultimately I decided to move on.
The second problem was that the main viewpoint characters were mostly uninteresting even with all the excessive time spent on fleshing them out. The characters that I wanted to know more about -- like Fen and Vika -- are relegated to supporting roles in service of the main cast and to move the plot along. The ones I didn't need to know more about get a lot of dedicated time that doesn't change enough.
I kept with it up to 51% because there's a lot to like here; in particular the soft magic, the conflicting religious systems, the Ossians and other conquered people struggling to survive the systematic erasure of their culture by the Krodans. But the writing keeps piquing my interesting and disappointing me with where it goes. Struggled hard with continuing, but ultimately I decided to move on.
aaron0017's review against another edition
adventurous
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
4.0
teeigs's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
emotional
funny
hopeful
inspiring
mysterious
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
stephanie_oh's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
emotional
hopeful
mysterious
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.25
alkinn's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
emotional
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
bashhellhammer's review
adventurous
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.5