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The Deeply Formed Life: Five Transformative Values to Root Us in the Way of Jesus by Rich Villodas
emmy_readz's review against another edition
informative
inspiring
reflective
slow-paced
4.5
I loved this book. 4.5 stars rounded down.
There were a couple pieces here and there that I felt were contrite. The practical section on sexual wellness was a bit lacking and other areas could have been expanded on significantly more.
Overall, the way this book was organized made me very happy. Each of the 5 values Villodas wanted to discuss had an intro chapter followed by an application chapter. I loved how he introduced topics, backed them up with biblical truth, and then explained how to put them in practice. Very insightful. The section on work is really working on my heart right now. Pun intended.
There were a couple pieces here and there that I felt were contrite. The practical section on sexual wellness was a bit lacking and other areas could have been expanded on significantly more.
Overall, the way this book was organized made me very happy. Each of the 5 values Villodas wanted to discuss had an intro chapter followed by an application chapter. I loved how he introduced topics, backed them up with biblical truth, and then explained how to put them in practice. Very insightful. The section on work is really working on my heart right now. Pun intended.
hwolfram's review
3.0
This book had some good aspects and aspects that frustrated me very much.
I will begin with the good.
- Rich is very passionate about what he is saying in this book and truly does believe it. I especially appreciated when he used personal stories with his wife and kids as that gave the impression that he lives this out or, as he admits, tries to to the best of his ability.
- The discussions I had around this book have been very helpful and fruitful for me
- Some sections were quite insightful. I especially thought the contemplative rhythms and the interior examination sections were the most helpful and my wife and I actually implemented technology boundaries following our discussion of the content in the first chapter. Without spoilers, I think that this chapter offers great thoughts and was a good launching point for the rest of the book
Now the not so good
- It is clear that this book is made to be easily quotable, because lines that are most likely to be quoted are sectioned off in between paragraphs many times per chapter. This annoyed me greatly and took some practice to read around. It is more of a publishing decision, but still annoying.
- The most frustrating thing is the lack of clarity with some of the lines. On a number of occasions, he mentioned something that doesn't make sense or I wished he would explain more and just moved on. Some lines just lack clarity, even though they can make big, definitive statements. (Sometimes conversations afterward helped me understand these lines better, but not always)
- I noticed that some of Rich's influences were New Age false teachers, such as Richard Rohr (who coauthored a book that was quoted) and Brian Zahnd, who endorsed Rich's book. This plays itself out most, imo, in a serious lack of talking about sin and how God redeems us from His judgment through the Cross. In some places there is actually an intentional downplaying of the soteriological effect of the cross.
These are just my thoughts. Overall there was a lot of helpful stuff. The unhelpful stuff was glaring when I went through it, however, which is why I am rating the book a 3/5
I will begin with the good.
- Rich is very passionate about what he is saying in this book and truly does believe it. I especially appreciated when he used personal stories with his wife and kids as that gave the impression that he lives this out or, as he admits, tries to to the best of his ability.
- The discussions I had around this book have been very helpful and fruitful for me
- Some sections were quite insightful. I especially thought the contemplative rhythms and the interior examination sections were the most helpful and my wife and I actually implemented technology boundaries following our discussion of the content in the first chapter. Without spoilers, I think that this chapter offers great thoughts and was a good launching point for the rest of the book
Now the not so good
- It is clear that this book is made to be easily quotable, because lines that are most likely to be quoted are sectioned off in between paragraphs many times per chapter. This annoyed me greatly and took some practice to read around. It is more of a publishing decision, but still annoying.
- The most frustrating thing is the lack of clarity with some of the lines. On a number of occasions, he mentioned something that doesn't make sense or I wished he would explain more and just moved on. Some lines just lack clarity, even though they can make big, definitive statements. (Sometimes conversations afterward helped me understand these lines better, but not always)
- I noticed that some of Rich's influences were New Age false teachers, such as Richard Rohr (who coauthored a book that was quoted) and Brian Zahnd, who endorsed Rich's book. This plays itself out most, imo, in a serious lack of talking about sin and how God redeems us from His judgment through the Cross. In some places there is actually an intentional downplaying of the soteriological effect of the cross.
These are just my thoughts. Overall there was a lot of helpful stuff. The unhelpful stuff was glaring when I went through it, however, which is why I am rating the book a 3/5
utalan's review
4.0
This was a good read and I agreed with most of it (though the "social sexuality" part was kinda weird). That said, I thought it was a weird choice of 5 things for a deeply formed life - particularly the racial reconciliation and sexual wholeness chapters.
Still gave it 4 stars because I did get a lot out of it.
Still gave it 4 stars because I did get a lot out of it.
randalblanken's review against another edition
challenging
informative
inspiring
reflective
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? N/A
- Strong character development? N/A
- Loveable characters? N/A
- Diverse cast of characters? N/A
- Flaws of characters a main focus? N/A
4.5
lirewoodis's review
4.0
I really enjoyed this book, and the content is particularly valuable right now. I wish the author could have gone a bit deeper, though. I understand this may not have been the lane the author intended for the book, an in-depth study on the contemplative life, but I wish there could have been a “further reading” index as a conclusion. Overall, a really good read.
adamrshields's review against another edition
4.0
Summary: Discipleship focused on five values: Contemplative rhythms, racial reconciliation, interior examination, sexual wholeness, and missional presence.
About ten years ago, I remember being struck as I read John Stott's last book (also on discipleship) how much culture impacts how we understand discipleship. Stott had chapters on environmentalism and international ecumenical cooperation (focusing on nuanced and negotiated written agreements and statements of faith). Some books on environmentalism talk about discipleship issues and some books on ecumenical cooperation also talk about the need to disciple people into church unity. Still, in general, those are unusual topics for a general book on discipleship. Stott was writing in a context where those were not unusual topics of discipleship. Stott's UK background and the US background are different, so books on discipleship have different emphases.
Rich Villodas is a pastor in NYC. Three of the list of his discipleship values will be found in many books. Two of his discipleship values are less common. According to Barna, White Evangelicals have become more interested in racial issues and are more opposed to discussing racial issues. There is an increasing divide within the White Evangelical world regarding justice issues more broadly, but racial justice in particular. Pew shows a 15-20% drop in the percent of the population that self identifies as Evangelical over the past decade. (And I antidotally suspect that it may be an undercount, but it may also just be my cohort.)
The reality is that it is becoming increasingly clear that the demographic dominance of White Evangelicals of the cultural conversation is waning. If for nothing other than pragmatic reasons, there is increasing awareness among some about the need for ethnic diversity within the church. As part of an aside in an online lecture from Esau McCaulley on theology and race, he noted that seminaries and colleges that primarily have catered to White theological training will have to change, or some of them will die, solely because of demographic trends.
The Deeply Formed Life is not taking a pragmatic/utilitarian approach to the need for racial reconciliation among Christians. He is rooting it as a central value, particularly because of our racially and culturally divided age. John 13 quotes Jesus as saying, "By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." But evidence of that love is often lacking.
Sexual Wholeness is more common in discipleship conversation among teens and young 20 somethings, but that is most about avoidance and purity. Many have been grappling with the repercussions of the past 20-25 years' purity movement, and there will be more grappling in the future. The key, which I think Villodas balances well, is to discuss why sexual wholeness is important and then offer grace for those who have either been sexual abused or more actively participated in sexual misconduct in their past. If polls around sexual activity are relatively accurate, teen sexual activity is down, but adult sexual activity outside of marriage (because of lower or later marriage rates) may be up. Porn use is pervasive, which seems to be correlated with reduced sexual activity. So this chapter is important, and what it means to be a Christian in a sexualized society should be part of an understanding of discipleship.
The three other topics are more traditional and tied to the historic church and traditional spiritual disciplines. The reality is that across cultures, some practices seem to be nearly universal around spiritual practices. Being quiet, seeking to hear God, working to live in a way that represents God well, and showing what it means to have good character and be impacted by Christ is no less true in NYC than in 11th century Rome or 4th century Ethiopia.
No book of discipleship is perfect for everyone. As much as we are to be oriented toward Christ's Kingdom first, the reality is that we are always Christians within a local space and culture. And how we work out what it means to be Christian must necessarily be tied to that culture, geography, and time. This is a discipleship book worth reading.
About ten years ago, I remember being struck as I read John Stott's last book (also on discipleship) how much culture impacts how we understand discipleship. Stott had chapters on environmentalism and international ecumenical cooperation (focusing on nuanced and negotiated written agreements and statements of faith). Some books on environmentalism talk about discipleship issues and some books on ecumenical cooperation also talk about the need to disciple people into church unity. Still, in general, those are unusual topics for a general book on discipleship. Stott was writing in a context where those were not unusual topics of discipleship. Stott's UK background and the US background are different, so books on discipleship have different emphases.
Rich Villodas is a pastor in NYC. Three of the list of his discipleship values will be found in many books. Two of his discipleship values are less common. According to Barna, White Evangelicals have become more interested in racial issues and are more opposed to discussing racial issues. There is an increasing divide within the White Evangelical world regarding justice issues more broadly, but racial justice in particular. Pew shows a 15-20% drop in the percent of the population that self identifies as Evangelical over the past decade. (And I antidotally suspect that it may be an undercount, but it may also just be my cohort.)
The reality is that it is becoming increasingly clear that the demographic dominance of White Evangelicals of the cultural conversation is waning. If for nothing other than pragmatic reasons, there is increasing awareness among some about the need for ethnic diversity within the church. As part of an aside in an online lecture from Esau McCaulley on theology and race, he noted that seminaries and colleges that primarily have catered to White theological training will have to change, or some of them will die, solely because of demographic trends.
The Deeply Formed Life is not taking a pragmatic/utilitarian approach to the need for racial reconciliation among Christians. He is rooting it as a central value, particularly because of our racially and culturally divided age. John 13 quotes Jesus as saying, "By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." But evidence of that love is often lacking.
Sexual Wholeness is more common in discipleship conversation among teens and young 20 somethings, but that is most about avoidance and purity. Many have been grappling with the repercussions of the past 20-25 years' purity movement, and there will be more grappling in the future. The key, which I think Villodas balances well, is to discuss why sexual wholeness is important and then offer grace for those who have either been sexual abused or more actively participated in sexual misconduct in their past. If polls around sexual activity are relatively accurate, teen sexual activity is down, but adult sexual activity outside of marriage (because of lower or later marriage rates) may be up. Porn use is pervasive, which seems to be correlated with reduced sexual activity. So this chapter is important, and what it means to be a Christian in a sexualized society should be part of an understanding of discipleship.
The three other topics are more traditional and tied to the historic church and traditional spiritual disciplines. The reality is that across cultures, some practices seem to be nearly universal around spiritual practices. Being quiet, seeking to hear God, working to live in a way that represents God well, and showing what it means to have good character and be impacted by Christ is no less true in NYC than in 11th century Rome or 4th century Ethiopia.
No book of discipleship is perfect for everyone. As much as we are to be oriented toward Christ's Kingdom first, the reality is that we are always Christians within a local space and culture. And how we work out what it means to be Christian must necessarily be tied to that culture, geography, and time. This is a discipleship book worth reading.
gjones19's review
5.0
This book is a fantastic introduction to living a Christian life with depth, integration, and intentionality!