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frenzusca's review against another edition
I did not get into it. There was no clear storyline visible. There were some sequences, when I thought I’d finally be in…but then I was out again….
Moderate: Suicide
Minor: Eating disorder
markwillnevercry's review against another edition
3.75
Everyone I heard talking about the book said that the first story was wonderful and the second one was either okay or just eh. Personally, I thought that both of the stories were pretty good. When you just look at this book, you might think that it is about Franny going through a break down (without ever getting out of it) while being surrounded by different people, but these stories seem to be more about Lane and Zooey than about Franny. They are both not great men, *looks intensely on Lane*, but they tried in their own ways to get rid of Franny's "depression", even tho both did it more for themselves than for Franny. It is interesting stories to read, but I personally think that Zooey was better, because there was just so much more love put into Zooey than any other character and it felt to nice to observe him.
Notes:
Franny:
I find it funny that he is waiting for his girlfriend, who hates all poets but Sappho. Bro, you gonna lose her to a butch woman.
Lovelovelove, ps. my father ain’t dying, it’s all good. The priorities are right.
Imagine nerd emoji here. Personally I think that the author should not have put in the whole letter, seeing that the chapter did not have time to read it fully.
Thinking, that everyone else must “surely find you at the right place with the right girl” is very gay.
Oh, Lane is one of those people, who just shuts you up when you say something they don’t like.
Empty ladie’s room? I didn’t know this was a fantasy.
Zooey:
The description of Zooey seems to be written as if by his lover.
I have a feeling that the children of the family Glass could have each gotten a story about them.
Oh my god, Mrs Glass.
Mrs. Glass be completely unable to judge herself while talking about her husband.
I am kinda uncomfortable about how much we concentrate on the fact, that Franny still looks good when she is in a middle of a breakdown.
I get why Zooey is being like this about the way Franny sees Jesus and how she is very priviledged to choose a place where she wants to have a breakdown, but he is kinda being abusive.
Their family is so broken.
Notes:
Franny:
I find it funny that he is waiting for his girlfriend, who hates all poets but Sappho. Bro, you gonna lose her to a butch woman.
Lovelovelove, ps. my father ain’t dying, it’s all good. The priorities are right.
Imagine nerd emoji here. Personally I think that the author should not have put in the whole letter, seeing that the chapter did not have time to read it fully.
Thinking, that everyone else must “surely find you at the right place with the right girl” is very gay.
Oh, Lane is one of those people, who just shuts you up when you say something they don’t like.
Empty ladie’s room? I didn’t know this was a fantasy.
Zooey:
The description of Zooey seems to be written as if by his lover.
I have a feeling that the children of the family Glass could have each gotten a story about them.
Oh my god, Mrs Glass.
Mrs. Glass be completely unable to judge herself while talking about her husband.
I am kinda uncomfortable about how much we concentrate on the fact, that Franny still looks good when she is in a middle of a breakdown.
I get why Zooey is being like this about the way Franny sees Jesus and how she is very priviledged to choose a place where she wants to have a breakdown, but he is kinda being abusive.
Their family is so broken.
Graphic: Child abuse, Domestic abuse, Eating disorder, Emotional abuse, Fatphobia, Mental illness, Racial slurs, Grief, Religious bigotry, and Alcohol
samchase112's review against another edition
challenging
reflective
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.75
I've been finding it really difficult to figure out my thoughts for this one. It's got some really interesting thoughts, and I enjoyed the stream of consciousness writing style, and the Glass family is absolutely fascinating. I wish I could have an intellectual conversation about it in an English class. This one might end up forgettable, but I'm glad I read it!
Below are some quotes that got me going; highlight worthy, if you will.
Everything everybody does is so — I don't know — not wrong, or even mean, or even stupid necessarily. But just so tiny and meaningless and — sad-making.
Just because I'm so horribly conditioned to accept everybody else's values, and just because I like applause and people to rave about me, doesn't make it right. I'm ashamed of it. I'm sick of it. I'm sick of not having the courage to be an absolute nobody. I'm sick of myself and everybody else that wants to make some kind of splash.
Phooey, I say, on all whiteshoe college boys who edit their campus literary magazines. Give me an honest con man any day.
As a matter of simple logic, there's no difference at all, that I can see, between the man who's greedy for material treasure — or even intellectual treasure — and the man who's greedy for spiritual treasure.
Just because I'm choosy about what I want — in this case, enlightenment, or peace, instead of money or prestige or fame or any of those things — doesn't mean I'm not as egotistical and self-seeking as everybody else. If anything, I'm more so!
Below are some quotes that got me going; highlight worthy, if you will.
Everything everybody does is so — I don't know — not wrong, or even mean, or even stupid necessarily. But just so tiny and meaningless and — sad-making.
Just because I'm so horribly conditioned to accept everybody else's values, and just because I like applause and people to rave about me, doesn't make it right. I'm ashamed of it. I'm sick of it. I'm sick of not having the courage to be an absolute nobody. I'm sick of myself and everybody else that wants to make some kind of splash.
Phooey, I say, on all whiteshoe college boys who edit their campus literary magazines. Give me an honest con man any day.
As a matter of simple logic, there's no difference at all, that I can see, between the man who's greedy for material treasure — or even intellectual treasure — and the man who's greedy for spiritual treasure.
Just because I'm choosy about what I want — in this case, enlightenment, or peace, instead of money or prestige or fame or any of those things — doesn't mean I'm not as egotistical and self-seeking as everybody else. If anything, I'm more so!
Moderate: Eating disorder, Suicidal thoughts, Suicide, and Alcohol
oliverreeds's review against another edition
challenging
reflective
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Graphic: Death, Eating disorder, Mental illness, Suicide, and Grief
tliz's review against another edition
emotional
hopeful
informative
inspiring
reflective
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.25
The novel is particularly dense, but not in a horrible way. Salinger both made a book of its time but also so far ahead of itself. I genuinely enjoyed reading about Franny and Zooey and their intertwining lives and their struggles to find their spot in the world.
It was delightful.
It was delightful.
Minor: Death, Eating disorder, and Suicide
ayamaro's review against another edition
emotional
funny
reflective
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
Graphic: Grief
Moderate: Death, Mental illness, and Suicide
Minor: Eating disorder
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