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cryptofauna's review against another edition
emotional
informative
reflective
slow-paced
2.75
i REALLY wanted to like this one but i just couldn't. i forced myself to finish it for the promise of a review at the end but i'm mostly just disappointed.
i think my main problem is that it doesn't feel like a book. it obviously says essays on the front, and they were essays for sure, but it didn't feel coherent enough to be united as a book or under the title bad feminist. the essays themselves were pretty good, i liked some more than others, but together it felt kind of endless and rambly, especially because it seemed like most of them weren't actually about feminism.
some of it was interesting but i was actively skipping essays towards the end bc i was just over it.
feminism is ovb intersectional, and i value all the stuff she was talking about independently, but it didn't feel connected. it really felt like gay had a lot of essays on her blog that she liked, and wanted to somehow fit into a book, so she wrote an essay for the beginning and at the end to establish the bad feminist thing
like i said, i agreed with her on most things, mostly the main points, (racisms is bad, depictions of minority groups in media, the big important stuff) rather than her thoughts on trigger warnings which i didn't 100% agree on, as well as other non-important ones that i kind of don't remember specifics of (because i was so desperate to finish this book that could not hold my attention whatsoever)
i appreciated a book that gave more insights and opinions on these topics that makes you think harder about intersectionality (especially the black experience which ovb i don't know as well), but while she had opinions that could be divisive if you're evil, it felt a little bit like preaching to the choir sometimes, and she spent a lot of time covering her ass. every time she would make a new statement or opinion, i felt like she would say something along the lines of "what im not saying is that men are evil and should die" which like. yes? i don't honestly know for sure what my criticism here is but it felt weird and out of place that she spent so much time defending parts of her opinions that didn't really require it. if you're reading the book, you're probably not sitting there being like "wow she clearly thinks black men should stop making movies!". this is hyperbolic and maybe it didn't happen as much as im saying it did, but it was enough to notice when it happened repeatedly and something about it was irritating to me.
overall, i liked her writing style and her thoughts if i was just reading her essays as standalone pieces of writing, but all together i found it fairly boring as much as i tried to love and be strongly affected by it. also, i did not know like any of the media she was reviewing which isn't her fault, but also feels sort of necessary to understand the actual depth of the writing.
sorry roxane gay i had high hopes this one just isn't for me. i may seek out her blog/essays to read more of her writing in its natural habitat, because she really is a talented writer with a lot of in depth thoughts that she explains fairly well, it just became SO long winded and tiring reading them one after another. you cannot understand the relief i felt when i was done with this.
i think my main problem is that it doesn't feel like a book. it obviously says essays on the front, and they were essays for sure, but it didn't feel coherent enough to be united as a book or under the title bad feminist. the essays themselves were pretty good, i liked some more than others, but together it felt kind of endless and rambly, especially because it seemed like most of them weren't actually about feminism.
some of it was interesting but i was actively skipping essays towards the end bc i was just over it.
feminism is ovb intersectional, and i value all the stuff she was talking about independently, but it didn't feel connected. it really felt like gay had a lot of essays on her blog that she liked, and wanted to somehow fit into a book, so she wrote an essay for the beginning and at the end to establish the bad feminist thing
like i said, i agreed with her on most things, mostly the main points, (racisms is bad, depictions of minority groups in media, the big important stuff) rather than her thoughts on trigger warnings which i didn't 100% agree on, as well as other non-important ones that i kind of don't remember specifics of (because i was so desperate to finish this book that could not hold my attention whatsoever)
i appreciated a book that gave more insights and opinions on these topics that makes you think harder about intersectionality (especially the black experience which ovb i don't know as well), but while she had opinions that could be divisive if you're evil, it felt a little bit like preaching to the choir sometimes, and she spent a lot of time covering her ass. every time she would make a new statement or opinion, i felt like she would say something along the lines of "what im not saying is that men are evil and should die" which like. yes? i don't honestly know for sure what my criticism here is but it felt weird and out of place that she spent so much time defending parts of her opinions that didn't really require it. if you're reading the book, you're probably not sitting there being like "wow she clearly thinks black men should stop making movies!". this is hyperbolic and maybe it didn't happen as much as im saying it did, but it was enough to notice when it happened repeatedly and something about it was irritating to me.
overall, i liked her writing style and her thoughts if i was just reading her essays as standalone pieces of writing, but all together i found it fairly boring as much as i tried to love and be strongly affected by it. also, i did not know like any of the media she was reviewing which isn't her fault, but also feels sort of necessary to understand the actual depth of the writing.
sorry roxane gay i had high hopes this one just isn't for me. i may seek out her blog/essays to read more of her writing in its natural habitat, because she really is a talented writer with a lot of in depth thoughts that she explains fairly well, it just became SO long winded and tiring reading them one after another. you cannot understand the relief i felt when i was done with this.
Content Warnings
Moderate: Hate crime, Racial slurs, Racism, Rape, Sexism, Sexual assault, Slavery, and Police brutality
vaykay's review against another edition
reflective
medium-paced
3.5
I struggle sometimes to review older material such as Bad Feminist (10 years later) because oftentimes it loses relevancy. Many essays in this book have lost all relevancy or are on popular cultural artifacts that have been discussed to shit by now (i.e. The Help and Orange is the New Black). It isn't a crime to be dated or to discuss the then-and-now with no concern for how relevant it will be 10 years from now, but I want to warn other readers that much of it is outdated. Many essays were good and interesting; some essays were extremely hypocritical and irritating due to what felt like an elementary level of self-reflection and understanding as well as comfortability with her voice as an essay writer. Gay's implications that reveling in more traditionally feminine things like pink, materialism, weddings, and — I guess — sucking dick means you're not a feminist (or at least not a good one) was weird. That implication was probably the least feminist thing about Bad Feminist because in her moment of self-doubt and projection, she tore down other women. It felt weird and uncomfortable... and not the sort of discomfort that is well-meaning in its ability to challenge you. Unfortunately, the first and last essays are the worst ones in the text, which seems like an interesting choice to hook readers and leave them fulfilled by the ending.
That said, I want to read more of Gay's more recent work to see how her voice and ideas have grown and changed in the last 10 years.
That said, I want to read more of Gay's more recent work to see how her voice and ideas have grown and changed in the last 10 years.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Body shaming, Bullying, Child abuse, Confinement, Cursing, Death, Eating disorder, Fatphobia, Gun violence, Hate crime, Miscarriage, Misogyny, Pedophilia, Physical abuse, Racial slurs, Racism, Rape, Sexism, Sexual assault, Sexual violence, Slavery, Toxic relationship, Violence, Xenophobia, Police brutality, Medical content, Murder, Pregnancy, Outing, Sexual harassment, and Dysphoria
Moderate: Homophobia and Abortion
Minor: Ableism, Drug abuse, Drug use, Genocide, Islamophobia, and Religious bigotry
dreareads_'s review against another edition
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medium-paced
3.25
Reading this book made me feel like a Bad Feminist because I did not love it...
I will begin by saying that there are plenty of essays to love, and Roxane Gay is at times a very engaging author. Her writing is at its best when she is clearly passionate about the topic and unrestrained in her opinions.
That being said, I feel like this book is a clear product of its time. The discussions on feminisn, gender, and representation in media were examples of the liberal feminism that was rampant in the early 2010's. This is not necessarily a bad thing (the essays were written at that time) but it does make it more difficult to fully engage with it in 2024. I also had my own frustration with her takes on academia, because while I agree with majority of her criticisms, as a woman of color in Academia myself I found that some of her stances perpetuated a kind of toxic expectation on students of colors that is prevalent amongst academic of colors from older generations. I was also left wishing for a more in depth exploration on the significant role of class and wealth and discussions of representation.
I still believe this is a book worth while reading. Especially because despite of it being a product of the 2012's a lot of the discussions on misogyny are still unfortunately too relevant today. I look forward to reading more of her contemporary work and seeing how (and if) her perspective has evolved in the years since the release of Bad Feminist.
(Idk how relevant this is, but I listened to the audio book and I was disappointed that it was not narrated by her. It created a sense of disconnection between the written essays and the audience that I hadn't experienced before)
I will begin by saying that there are plenty of essays to love, and Roxane Gay is at times a very engaging author. Her writing is at its best when she is clearly passionate about the topic and unrestrained in her opinions.
That being said, I feel like this book is a clear product of its time. The discussions on feminisn, gender, and representation in media were examples of the liberal feminism that was rampant in the early 2010's. This is not necessarily a bad thing (the essays were written at that time) but it does make it more difficult to fully engage with it in 2024. I also had my own frustration with her takes on academia, because while I agree with majority of her criticisms, as a woman of color in Academia myself I found that some of her stances perpetuated a kind of toxic expectation on students of colors that is prevalent amongst academic of colors from older generations. I was also left wishing for a more in depth exploration on the significant role of class and wealth and discussions of representation.
I still believe this is a book worth while reading. Especially because despite of it being a product of the 2012's a lot of the discussions on misogyny are still unfortunately too relevant today. I look forward to reading more of her contemporary work and seeing how (and if) her perspective has evolved in the years since the release of Bad Feminist.
(Idk how relevant this is, but I listened to the audio book and I was disappointed that it was not narrated by her. It created a sense of disconnection between the written essays and the audience that I hadn't experienced before)
Content Warnings
Graphic: Bullying, Child abuse, Cursing, Death, Eating disorder, Fatphobia, Hate crime, Misogyny, Physical abuse, Racism, Rape, Sexism, Sexual assault, Sexual violence, Suicidal thoughts, Grief, Abortion, and Alcohol
evangelinew's review against another edition
funny
hopeful
informative
inspiring
reflective
medium-paced
5.0
I really enjoyed it. Tore through. I don’t agree on everything, and some parts haven’t aged perfectly, but I think that’s alright. She is witty, smart, and admirable. Most of all I found her prose and perspective fascinating. In the best possible way, I see myself in Gay so much in terms of passions and experiences, but rarely in how she sees the world.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Hate crime, Racial slurs, Racism, Rape, and Abortion
florizona's review against another edition
informative
reflective
medium-paced
2.25
This wasn’t really what I expected- rather than a collection of serious essays, it’s more like a series of hastily written, personal POV-driven op-ed columns. Nothing particularly well-considered, heavy-hitting or profound. Just not into it at all, despite enjoying some other writing by the author.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Bullying, Racial slurs, and Rape
Minor: Body shaming, Fatphobia, Hate crime, Mental illness, Misogyny, Racism, Sexism, Sexual assault, Sexual content, Sexual violence, Slavery, Police brutality, Mass/school shootings, Abortion, Murder, Pregnancy, and Outing
itszosia's review against another edition
hopeful
informative
reflective
fast-paced
4.25
Content Warnings
Moderate: Racism, Rape, and Sexism
Minor: Fatphobia, Hate crime, Misogyny, Sexual violence, Toxic relationship, Police brutality, Murder, and Sexual harassment
ginimeh's review against another edition
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funny
informative
inspiring
reflective
medium-paced
2.5
I read Bad Feminist in 2023 after years and years of having it on my reading list. I think this is why I was so disappointed by the book. I only ever knew the title and after coming to terms with the fact that Gay is not writing about being a bad feminist but mainly popculture and the time the book was written I was ready and set to read it in historical context.
There were a lot of points where I thought "if I read this as a teen back when it was published I'd be able to take so much from it" and some thoughts and sentences are a welcomed gift for the next arguments I'll have with sexists or racists but further than that it didn't give me much. The only thing I really take away from it is that 2014 was still a year when "being feminist" meant to be a woman, to only talk about two genders, to mix up liking a specific color and shaving your legs is the same as supporting being a bad feminist. Honestly the last chapter accomplished to ruin the book for me. 2014 is almost a decade ago but if you write a book about feminism (no matter if it's about your perspective or the lense of media and society) I think one should look at the big scope of privilege and not only brush them while talking about two main points or axes of intersectionality. But maybe I'm putting to much responsibility on the author and thereby proof her point that we expect a lot from feminism.
Also I read it in German and the translation were horribly stiff sometimes.
There were a lot of points where I thought "if I read this as a teen back when it was published I'd be able to take so much from it" and some thoughts and sentences are a welcomed gift for the next arguments I'll have with sexists or racists but further than that it didn't give me much. The only thing I really take away from it is that 2014 was still a year when "being feminist" meant to be a woman, to only talk about two genders, to mix up liking a specific color and shaving your legs is the same as supporting being a bad feminist. Honestly the last chapter accomplished to ruin the book for me. 2014 is almost a decade ago but if you write a book about feminism (no matter if it's about your perspective or the lense of media and society) I think one should look at the big scope of privilege and not only brush them while talking about two main points or axes of intersectionality. But maybe I'm putting to much responsibility on the author and thereby proof her point that we expect a lot from feminism.
Also I read it in German and the translation were horribly stiff sometimes.
Content Warnings
Moderate: Drug use, Eating disorder, Emotional abuse, Gun violence, Hate crime, Misogyny, Physical abuse, Racism, Rape, Sexual assault, Slavery, Violence, Police brutality, Mass/school shootings, Murder, Cultural appropriation, and Sexual harassment
lubarbara's review against another edition
emotional
funny
inspiring
reflective
fast-paced
3.0
La considero una lectura importante del feminismo, pero no así esencial. Si bien me dejó pensando en varias ocasiones mi rol como mujer y feminista, me fue difícil encontrarme o identificarme con varias de las dificultades planteadas por la autora ya que yo no soy ni negra ni estadounidense. Además, muchas referencias a la cultura pop no las entendí (creo que es muy específico de los 2010’s y se pierden bastantes cosas).
Sin embargo, hay experiencias universales que vivimos todas las mujeres y se encuentran muy bien retratadas. La invitación a cuestionarnos, pero a ser más pacientes y amorosas con nosotras mismas es muy clara y necesaria.
Sin embargo, hay experiencias universales que vivimos todas las mujeres y se encuentran muy bien retratadas. La invitación a cuestionarnos, pero a ser más pacientes y amorosas con nosotras mismas es muy clara y necesaria.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Misogyny, Racial slurs, Rape, Sexism, Sexual assault, and Slavery
Moderate: Child death, Hate crime, and Murder
maggieparedesauthor's review against another edition
challenging
dark
emotional
informative
reflective
sad
tense
medium-paced
3.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Addiction, Alcoholism, Bullying, Child death, Domestic abuse, Gun violence, Hate crime, Racism, Sexual assault, Sexual content, Sexual violence, Slavery, Violence, Police brutality, Abortion, Cultural appropriation, Sexual harassment, and Injury/Injury detail
kia_y_k's review against another edition
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funny
hopeful
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inspiring
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medium-paced
4.5
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Graphic: Gun violence, Hate crime, Misogyny, Racism, Sexism, Slavery, Violence, Xenophobia, Mass/school shootings, Murder, and Sexual harassment