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bzliz's review against another edition
adventurous
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
2.25
I was so close to DNFing in the first chapter when there was wayyy too many references to how tiny and fragile Violet is but I stuck it out because I had already paid for the book. Part of my enjoyment of my reading experience came from relaying the plot to my fiance who promptly renamed Violet to Mary Sue. While I don’t think that title fits her perfectly, she does feel Mary Sue adjacent to me because everyone is so obsessed- good or bad- with this chick at any given point in the book. She also only seems to have flaws in the way that someone at a job interview talks about how their weakness is that they’re a perfectionist. Her flaws seem to be her physical build and ambiguous disability (which is not something she could control), her proximity to power which makes her a target (she can’t control who gave birth to her), that she’s merciful (see the Threshing), and that she’s too trusting (see Dain).
I liked the dragons and found that aspect much more interesting than pretty much anything that Violet was thinking at any given point, which was usually about how hot Xaden is. It was pretty clear that Yarros is more of a romance writer than a fantasy writer. There’s nothing inherently wrong with that but it’s frustrating when Violet is worried about how attracted to Xaden she is more than how many people are actively plotting to kill her. I was much more interested in the symbiotic relationship between humans and dragons and the (sub)plot about what their government is hiding from them about the dangers and nature of the regular attacks along the border.
Also the number one offense in this book, hands down, bar none, go straight to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200: Xaden nicknaming her Violence. I hate it so much forever. He says it at super weird times and then sort of taunts her saying “we’ll see if you live up to your nickname” like bro, you gave her the nickname, you’re telling her to live up to the expectation you privately set for her and that’s so weird. If someone is known in their hometown as Sandwich Man and you come in out of nowhere and challenge them to a sandwich eating contest, then you can say let’s see if you live up to your nickname then that’s fine because it makes sense but if you see someone eat a sandwich one time and dub them Sandwich Man, then when everybody else is making sandwiches together and your new acquaintance is minding their business, it’s super weird if you insist they go live up to the nickname that you gave them!
Once Xaden and Violet cave to their primal desire for each other, I got bored. The sex scenes were just as mediocre as everything else. With how much people hyped up the spice/smut in the book, I expected better. If you’ve read literally any sex scenes before then you’ve already read these too.
Unfortunately, this was just an okay book. A lot of it felt like a rehash of YA tropes shifted into dragon rider murder college. I understand why so many people love it but I don’t think it lives up to that hype, nor is it the worst thing I’ve ever read.
I liked the dragons and found that aspect much more interesting than pretty much anything that Violet was thinking at any given point, which was usually about how hot Xaden is. It was pretty clear that Yarros is more of a romance writer than a fantasy writer. There’s nothing inherently wrong with that but it’s frustrating when Violet is worried about how attracted to Xaden she is more than how many people are actively plotting to kill her. I was much more interested in the symbiotic relationship between humans and dragons and the (sub)plot about what their government is hiding from them about the dangers and nature of the regular attacks along the border.
Also the number one offense in this book, hands down, bar none, go straight to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200: Xaden nicknaming her Violence. I hate it so much forever. He says it at super weird times and then sort of taunts her saying “we’ll see if you live up to your nickname” like bro, you gave her the nickname, you’re telling her to live up to the expectation you privately set for her and that’s so weird. If someone is known in their hometown as Sandwich Man and you come in out of nowhere and challenge them to a sandwich eating contest, then you can say let’s see if you live up to your nickname then that’s fine because it makes sense but if you see someone eat a sandwich one time and dub them Sandwich Man, then when everybody else is making sandwiches together and your new acquaintance is minding their business, it’s super weird if you insist they go live up to the nickname that you gave them!
Once Xaden and Violet cave to their primal desire for each other, I got bored. The sex scenes were just as mediocre as everything else. With how much people hyped up the spice/smut in the book, I expected better. If you’ve read literally any sex scenes before then you’ve already read these too.
Unfortunately, this was just an okay book. A lot of it felt like a rehash of YA tropes shifted into dragon rider murder college. I understand why so many people love it but I don’t think it lives up to that hype, nor is it the worst thing I’ve ever read.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death, Sexual content, Violence, Murder, Fire/Fire injury, and Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Vomit and Medical content
Minor: Grief, Death of parent, and War
mossywossy's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
emotional
funny
hopeful
inspiring
mysterious
sad
tense
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
This book is so good. Oh my god, I can’t get enough of it. What a great book to get back into reading with. I literally couldn’t put it down!! I’m so mad that I’m back to WAITING for more books!!!
Content Warnings
Moderate: Death, Violence, Grief, War, and Injury/Injury detail
Minor: Body horror, Blood, and Medical content
kat_a's review against another edition
adventurous
emotional
mysterious
sad
tense
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Bullying, Child death, Chronic illness, Death, Sexual content, Death of parent, and War
Moderate: Blood, Medical content, Grief, Murder, and Injury/Injury detail
Minor: Confinement, Forced institutionalization, Vomit, and Alcohol
kdailyreads's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
emotional
funny
hopeful
inspiring
mysterious
tense
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
5.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Ableism, Body horror, Bullying, Chronic illness, Cursing, Death, Sexism, Sexual content, Violence, Medical content, Grief, Death of parent, Murder, Toxic friendship, War, and Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Drug use
reminiscences's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
emotional
informative
mysterious
reflective
sad
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.75
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death, Violence, Blood, Murder, and Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Vomit, Medical content, Grief, and Gaslighting
grayscale08's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
emotional
inspiring
mysterious
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.5
Content Warnings
Graphic: Bullying, Death, Sexual content, Violence, Blood, Murder, War, and Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Body shaming, Chronic illness, Cursing, Emotional abuse, Genocide, Gore, Hate crime, Panic attacks/disorders, Torture, Xenophobia, Grief, Death of parent, Gaslighting, Toxic friendship, and Classism
Minor: Ableism, Animal death, Child death, Drug use, Mental illness, Misogyny, Sexism, Vomit, Medical content, Fire/Fire injury, and Alcohol
angelofthetardis's review against another edition
adventurous
emotional
mysterious
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Late to the party again, I know... but I got there eventually! And I can TOTALLY understand the hype!
There are elements in here from all of your favourite fantasy/dystopian future series - Divergent, Red Queen, The Hunger Games, ACOTAR, Crescent City, Throne of Glass etc etc etc, so it's like slipping into something comfortable and familiar. But at the same time, it's completely its own thing, standing on its own merits and taking you on a fantastic trip into the writer's own little corner of fantasy land.
I have to admit I wasn't 100% sure I was going to enjoy it (that, plus the fact I wanted to wait until it came out in paperback is the reason it took me a while to read it), as I was uncertain about the dragon element in particular. They lead me more towards high fantasy, which I don't enjoy quite as much. However, I am very pleased to have my worries proven as unfounded; the dragons are amazing! I like the fact that they're characters in their own right and, of course, the way the relationships grow between dragon and rider is fantastically done.
Our main character, Violet, does fit within the usual mould of this sort of series; your unlikely hero who must go through tough times to get physically and mentally stronger whilst being exposed to both expected and unforeseen dangers. However, I do like the fact that the author has given Violet a physical reason for her weakness, as I understand it based somewhat on her own experiences; she's not just a girl that's fallen on hard times and had to learn to survive in ways which just so happen to give her the skills she needs. And more importantly, her perceived weakness isn't just forgotten or fixed - there are gentle reminders of it throughout, she and those around her find ways to adapt things that don't quite work, and in a couple of places it turns into an asset. She does perhaps come across as a little bit immature for her 20 years, but generally she's a likeable character that you're happy to accompany through the story.
As for Xaden and Dain, they are both immediately recognisable fantasy men; you'll start out rooting for the good guy, but then the shadow daddy appears with his brooding and bad boy attitude and you know exactly where we're headed. I can't say that I'm as enthralled by Xaden as I am with the Bat Boys (no wings of his own for one thing!), but I am only one book into this series so there's hope for me yet!
I am totally sold on the series though, and will absolutely be getting the graphic audios of this from Audible! Now I just need my library to get its systems back online so I can order Iron Flame...
There are elements in here from all of your favourite fantasy/dystopian future series - Divergent, Red Queen, The Hunger Games, ACOTAR, Crescent City, Throne of Glass etc etc etc, so it's like slipping into something comfortable and familiar. But at the same time, it's completely its own thing, standing on its own merits and taking you on a fantastic trip into the writer's own little corner of fantasy land.
I have to admit I wasn't 100% sure I was going to enjoy it (that, plus the fact I wanted to wait until it came out in paperback is the reason it took me a while to read it), as I was uncertain about the dragon element in particular. They lead me more towards high fantasy, which I don't enjoy quite as much. However, I am very pleased to have my worries proven as unfounded; the dragons are amazing! I like the fact that they're characters in their own right and, of course, the way the relationships grow between dragon and rider is fantastically done.
Our main character, Violet, does fit within the usual mould of this sort of series; your unlikely hero who must go through tough times to get physically and mentally stronger whilst being exposed to both expected and unforeseen dangers. However, I do like the fact that the author has given Violet a physical reason for her weakness, as I understand it based somewhat on her own experiences; she's not just a girl that's fallen on hard times and had to learn to survive in ways which just so happen to give her the skills she needs. And more importantly, her perceived weakness isn't just forgotten or fixed - there are gentle reminders of it throughout, she and those around her find ways to adapt things that don't quite work, and in a couple of places it turns into an asset. She does perhaps come across as a little bit immature for her 20 years, but generally she's a likeable character that you're happy to accompany through the story.
As for Xaden and Dain, they are both immediately recognisable fantasy men; you'll start out rooting for the good guy, but then the shadow daddy appears with his brooding and bad boy attitude and you know exactly where we're headed. I can't say that I'm as enthralled by Xaden as I am with the Bat Boys (no wings of his own for one thing!), but I am only one book into this series so there's hope for me yet!
I am totally sold on the series though, and will absolutely be getting the graphic audios of this from Audible! Now I just need my library to get its systems back online so I can order Iron Flame...
Content Warnings
Graphic: Bullying, Death, Sexual content, Violence, and Fire/Fire injury
Moderate: Ableism, Animal death, Cursing, Forced institutionalization, Blood, Death of parent, Murder, and War
Minor: Vomit, Medical content, and Grief
garbage_mcsmutly's review against another edition
adventurous
emotional
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
5.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Ableism, Bullying, Chronic illness, Cursing, Death, Gore, Physical abuse, Sexual content, Violence, Blood, Grief, Murder, Toxic friendship, War, and Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Emotional abuse, Medical content, Death of parent, and Fire/Fire injury
Minor: Animal cruelty, Drug use, Toxic relationship, Vomit, and Stalking
mercerhanau's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
emotional
lighthearted
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Sexual content, Violence, and Blood
Moderate: Ableism, Death, Medical content, Grief, Murder, Toxic friendship, War, and Injury/Injury detail
Minor: Animal death, Cursing, Vomit, Death of parent, and Fire/Fire injury
zydecovivo's review against another edition
adventurous
emotional
mysterious
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.0
If you get fed any social media posts about books, you have probably heard about Fourth Wing. Admittedly, I went into reading this book thinking “Everyone is saying it’s a game changer, so it must be amazing” and I think that is the wrong way to start this, or any, book.
I’d like to start by saying it is good. If you like romantasy (fantasy+romance) with a touch of dystopia, you’ll have a great time reading Fourth Wing. The main character is also explicitly disabled and it is intertwined with her journey of self-discovery, as well as challenging the status quo of the society she is in. Based on the descriptions, I think she has Ehlers-Danlos syndrome. I also love the dragons. They are characters in their own right, not just tools to be used. However, the entire time I was reading, I couldn’t help but tell myself “This is just Divergent with dragons.” The general plot is almost identical. Everything was predictable because of this and the only things that I didn’t predict were because something we were told was “impossible” was, in fact, possible for our super special main character. This occurs multiple times. I don’t even think it’s an unreliable narrator at that point. I think it’s an unreliable universe. The upper hand that Fourth Wing has over Divergent is that this fantasy setting allows for more creativity (and covering up for narrative mistakes). Additionally, I did not enjoy most of the main character’s “love life”. This is enemies-to-lovers, so much so that it is almost anti-friends-to-lovers. I don’t care about either trope, but the blatant comparisons get old. I also felt that the main character thinks about “spice” a lot more than I care for, especially considering the actual spice level of the book. There may be people who want to see this since women’s sexuality is largely swept aside in many stories. But this was not it for me.
Overall, this is a decent adult romantasy book and probably a good introduction to the genre for people who prefer epic fantasy stories. I don’t feel like I wasted my time reading it. But it is not groundbreaking in the slightest and I’m not sure if I will continue the series.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Chronic illness, Violence, Blood, Murder, War, and Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Death, Sexual content, Vomit, Medical content, Grief, Death of parent, Fire/Fire injury, and Toxic friendship