Scan barcode
annescorner's review against another edition
4.0
Dieser Band hat mir wirklich sehr gut gefallen, viel besser als der andere. Die Erwartungen, die ich hatte, hat er sehr gut erreicht, da die Chemie und die Beziehung der beiden Charktere wirklich süß, realistisch und schön war. Beide haben ihr eigenes Leben, aber ihre gemeinsame Zeit ist auch super schön. Ich mag, wie Onoda erkannt hat, dass er Deguchi wirklich liebt und fand auch, dass Deguchi ihm seine Gefühle nicht aufgedrückt hat, jedoch gleichzeitig realistisch war und ihm seine Grenzen mitgeteilt hat. Generell fand ich die Kommunikation der beiden die meiste Zeit über sehr gut. Mein einziges Problem ist - und ich hatte schon dasselbe mit dem anderen Band - ist dieses binäre Denken, dass es nur „Heteros“ und „Schwule“ gibt. Der Band ist von 2014, okay, vielleicht waren da so Begriffe wie bisexual oder pansexual noch nicht allzu bekannt (obwohl ich das iwie bezweifle, zumindest in queeren Kreisen), aber das Deguchi Onoda die ganze Zeit als „Hetero“ bezeichnet, obwohl Onoda mit ihm zusammen ist, finde ich nicht nur weird sondern auch einfach falsch. Generell, dass aus dem ganzen ein Problem gemacht wird, weil „Heteros Schwule ja nicht ganz verstehen können“, fand ich komisch. Naja, abgesehen davon war der Band aber einfach richtig gut, und im Gegensatz zu No touching at all würde ich ihn auch wirklich jedem empfehlen!
francisdee's review
4.0
"There is nothing traumatic, nothing all that painful, and no particularly surprising incidents." Kou Yoneda, the author, wrote this at the end of the volume, and I think it is a good summary of the feelings this story gives off.
Deguchi and Onoda meet thanks to some friends in common. They become friends and start going out for drinks and food. Onoda is straight, while Deguchi is gay (although he is not out with Onoda), and during the next three years their friendship develops and Deguchi falls in love with Onoda. Things ensue.
There is another recurring character, Shima, who's gay and in a relationship with one of Onoda's ex colleagues.
I liked the fact there was no rapey undertone, and enjoyed the flaws both characters have, their patience, but also their judgements and jealousy. They felt quite human.
I guess I should say, as a bi person, it is always a bit frustrating when you are reading a story and a "straight" person develops feelings for someone of their same sex but keeps being referred to as still straight instead of bisexual. But it could be just a translation issue, or just a different culture. I don't know enough about Japanese queer culture and don't want to judge using my European set of standards, if it makes sense.
There were a couple of typos in the edition I read, but I hope if they reprint it they will fix them.
Hot scale: there are a couple of sex scenes. Nothing to explicit (no pillars of light), but quite funny/sweet
Deguchi and Onoda meet thanks to some friends in common. They become friends and start going out for drinks and food. Onoda is straight, while Deguchi is gay (although he is not out with Onoda), and during the next three years their friendship develops and Deguchi falls in love with Onoda. Things ensue.
There is another recurring character, Shima, who's gay and in a relationship with one of Onoda's ex colleagues.
I liked the fact there was no rapey undertone, and enjoyed the flaws both characters have, their patience, but also their judgements and jealousy. They felt quite human.
I guess I should say, as a bi person, it is always a bit frustrating when you are reading a story and a "straight" person develops feelings for someone of their same sex but keeps being referred to as still straight instead of bisexual. But it could be just a translation issue, or just a different culture. I don't know enough about Japanese queer culture and don't want to judge using my European set of standards, if it makes sense.
There were a couple of typos in the edition I read, but I hope if they reprint it they will fix them.
Hot scale: there are a couple of sex scenes. Nothing to explicit (no pillars of light), but quite funny/sweet
captwinghead's review
2.0
I've had such a bad reading slump recently. While this wasn't my favorite, I was glad to have finished a book.
This is a spin off of "No Touching At All", a story that didn't grab me initially before it ripped my heart out. That one took time to grow on me and pull me in, but I enjoyed it by the end. This one didn't grab me at all and I finished it not really connecting to anyone.
You have Deguchi, a closeted gay man who falls for a straight guy, Onoda. He keeps it a secret, fearing rejection but, when Onoda has a crush on a gay coworker, Shima, Deguchi starts to think he might have a shot. This conclusion manifests in jealousy over Shima, despite him not doing anything to try to earn Onoda's affections. Shima is in a relationship. It also results in a confusing situation where Onoda has crushes on 2 men but is still straight... I'm not sure why the word bisexual is avoided like the plague here.
Anyway, I didn't really see the chemistry here. I understood Deguchi's feelings, but I never saw the turn where Onoda started to have feelings for him in return. It felt more like he didn't want to lose Deguchi as a friend more than he was actually attracted to him. Also, the story felt sort of aimless at the start and I think that's because this story seemed to exist because readers attached to these 2 characters from the other story.
So, while I really enjoyed No Touching At All, this one isn't a recommend from me, personally.
This is a spin off of "No Touching At All", a story that didn't grab me initially before it ripped my heart out. That one took time to grow on me and pull me in, but I enjoyed it by the end. This one didn't grab me at all and I finished it not really connecting to anyone.
You have Deguchi, a closeted gay man who falls for a straight guy, Onoda. He keeps it a secret, fearing rejection but, when Onoda has a crush on a gay coworker, Shima, Deguchi starts to think he might have a shot. This conclusion manifests in jealousy over Shima, despite him not doing anything to try to earn Onoda's affections. Shima is in a relationship. It also results in a confusing situation where Onoda has crushes on 2 men but is still straight... I'm not sure why the word bisexual is avoided like the plague here.
Anyway, I didn't really see the chemistry here. I understood Deguchi's feelings, but I never saw the turn where Onoda started to have feelings for him in return. It felt more like he didn't want to lose Deguchi as a friend more than he was actually attracted to him. Also, the story felt sort of aimless at the start and I think that's because this story seemed to exist because readers attached to these 2 characters from the other story.
So, while I really enjoyed No Touching At All, this one isn't a recommend from me, personally.
haruarus's review against another edition
emotional
lighthearted
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? N/A
- Diverse cast of characters? N/A
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.75
Totally serviceable.
irayred's review
3.0
A couple of short stories that are focused on Onoda an Deguchi, both salary men who happen to work together in the same company. Deguchi is 3 years older than Onoda but he seems like a younger man for his attitude towards Onoda. He’s the kind of ‘tsundere’ characters I find annoying ‘cause they pretty much misunderstood everything and don’t even dare to talk first.
Anyway, I did like the art style and the complexity of feelings but I do not appreciate when the romance is ambiguous as this one. I’m really tired of the straight/gay trope and I know this was the shit back then but, IMO it didn’t age well.
I think this could be read as a sequel to Doushitemo Furetakunai, since one of the MC here is a secondary character in here.
Read if for the #JPLitReadathon.
Anyway, I did like the art style and the complexity of feelings but I do not appreciate when the romance is ambiguous as this one. I’m really tired of the straight/gay trope and I know this was the shit back then but, IMO it didn’t age well.
I think this could be read as a sequel to Doushitemo Furetakunai, since one of the MC here is a secondary character in here.
Read if for the #JPLitReadathon.
arturourbanos's review
3.0
La historia tiene cierto trasfondo y me ha gustado pero me esperaba algo más. Y bueno, estoy un poco cansado (harto) de que en muchos mangas haya un tío """"""hetero""""" que se enamore de otro tío pero que siga siendo """""hetero""""". Qué pavor le tienen a la palabra bisexualidad, leches.