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The Divine Comedy of Dante Alighieri; Volume 2 by Dante Alighieri
4 reviews
stefhyena's review against another edition
challenging
emotional
sad
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
1.75
At the risk of being seen as a Philistine I don't get what's supposed to be so great about this book. The theology sucks. If I had more faith I would have lost it reading this petty and biased account of how God supposedly favours some of the weapon waving narcissists over the others and creates and evil expansionistic empire in the sky complete with horrendous tortures for the masses.
The poetry...well to be fair I read it in translation. A good and careful translation which explained some of the scansion and other decisions that were kept in, as well as why the rhyme was not. The notes were invaluable for actually understanding some of this nonsense. But apart from the offensively bad theology (to be fair probably normal in his day) and his obvious self-aggrandisement throughout (there's been a good meme on this which turns out to have been exact) the pace is very slow and tedious. I forced myself to read 2 cantos a day over many months. I do want to learn what is great poetry and to be a better poet myself and this is meant to be one of the best.
From the perspective of old white men who like empires I guess...
The poetry...well to be fair I read it in translation. A good and careful translation which explained some of the scansion and other decisions that were kept in, as well as why the rhyme was not. The notes were invaluable for actually understanding some of this nonsense. But apart from the offensively bad theology (to be fair probably normal in his day) and his obvious self-aggrandisement throughout (there's been a good meme on this which turns out to have been exact) the pace is very slow and tedious. I forced myself to read 2 cantos a day over many months. I do want to learn what is great poetry and to be a better poet myself and this is meant to be one of the best.
From the perspective of old white men who like empires I guess...
Graphic: Ableism, Body horror, Bullying, Child death, Death, Emotional abuse, Genocide, Hate crime, Misogyny, Physical abuse, Racism, Sexism, Slavery, Suicide, Torture, Violence, Forced institutionalization, Blood, Police brutality, Cannibalism, Religious bigotry, Murder, Colonisation, War, and Classism
tienno22's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? N/A
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
3.75
Interesting and fun classical book on Heaven, Purgatory, and Hell structure. Don't believe all the moral suggestions that it makes. This book is pretty extreme and wild, but overall I think that made it fun to read. It does, however, make some subtly interesting claims
Graphic: Death, Torture, and Violence
jo_lzr's review against another edition
dark
mysterious
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.0
Graphic: Body horror, Gore, Physical abuse, Torture, Violence, Medical trauma, Fire/Fire injury, and Injury/Injury detail
fsb95's review against another edition
challenging
dark
informative
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? N/A
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
2.5
In truth, I didn’t finish - I fought my way through to the end of the Inferno (ha) and then gave up.
In fairness to Dante, it is probably more readable in the original, because there, the poetic merit probably compensates a good deal for the tiresome self-indulgence of the author. I attempted to read this book because of the tremendous impact it has had on Western culture and tropes, and admittedly Dante’s world-building is probably on par with someone like Tolkien.
Having been pleasantly surprised by “Candide” just before I started this, I expected more of the same - a gripping read. But the “Comedy” in the title misleads - though of course it does contain elements of satire and humour (much of which just wasn’t that funny to me), it is more comparable to a religious text, which of course in a sense it is.
At least to the modern reader, it isn’t something you can really just read, it’s a book you would need to study and interpret. I constantly found myself referring to the notes section, and I learnt lots of things about late mediaeval Italy in general, and Dante’s life in particular. Which I wouldn’t have minded had that been what I had set out to do, but it wasn’t. I was looking to read for pleasure, not learning. Of course, with some books you can do both, but for me this just wasn’t one of them.
In summary: Unless you’re already intimately familiar with both Dante’s biography and this particular period of Italian history, this is not a book you can really read for pleasure. If you do want to learn about that though, and don’t mind “studying” this book rather than simply reading it in a leisurely way, then I’d really recommend it. If not, you’re better off just reading the Cliffs Notes summary of each canto.
In fairness to Dante, it is probably more readable in the original, because there, the poetic merit probably compensates a good deal for the tiresome self-indulgence of the author. I attempted to read this book because of the tremendous impact it has had on Western culture and tropes, and admittedly Dante’s world-building is probably on par with someone like Tolkien.
Having been pleasantly surprised by “Candide” just before I started this, I expected more of the same - a gripping read. But the “Comedy” in the title misleads - though of course it does contain elements of satire and humour (much of which just wasn’t that funny to me), it is more comparable to a religious text, which of course in a sense it is.
At least to the modern reader, it isn’t something you can really just read, it’s a book you would need to study and interpret. I constantly found myself referring to the notes section, and I learnt lots of things about late mediaeval Italy in general, and Dante’s life in particular. Which I wouldn’t have minded had that been what I had set out to do, but it wasn’t. I was looking to read for pleasure, not learning. Of course, with some books you can do both, but for me this just wasn’t one of them.
In summary: Unless you’re already intimately familiar with both Dante’s biography and this particular period of Italian history, this is not a book you can really read for pleasure. If you do want to learn about that though, and don’t mind “studying” this book rather than simply reading it in a leisurely way, then I’d really recommend it. If not, you’re better off just reading the Cliffs Notes summary of each canto.
Graphic: Body horror, Confinement, Death, Gore, Homophobia, Sexual content, Violence, Blood, Excrement, Religious bigotry, and War