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page_not_found's review against another edition
mysterious
sad
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.25
toxic family dynamics, racists grandfather, classism, to many rich people problems
Content Warnings
Graphic: Fire/Fire injury
Moderate: Alcoholism, Animal death, Child death, Death, Emotional abuse, Racism, Dementia, Gaslighting, Injury/Injury detail, and Classism
Minor: Drug use and Death of parent
sabrinabeschke's review against another edition
emotional
mysterious
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Chronic illness, Grief, and Fire/Fire injury
Moderate: Addiction, Animal death, Child death, Death, Drug use, Infidelity, Mental illness, Racism, Medical content, Dementia, Medical trauma, Abandonment, Alcohol, and Classism
Minor: Self harm, Suicidal thoughts, and Vomit
mikathereviewer's review against another edition
dark
emotional
mysterious
sad
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.0
Summary of my review: Short chapters, interesting story line, fast- to medium-paced, nice writing style, showing us readers how the book was planned (first sketches, scenes, etc.), weird romance, all story parts felt so different from the previous ones, disappointing ending, explanantion as to why they are called 'liars' were only mentioned in the afterword instead inside the story
When I saw that the book has 87 chapters I was like: What
But guess who's happy now for getting short chapters to read :D
Writing style was, well, interesting. I mean sometimes it was out of place and I was confused or preferred if it wasn't written down some parts, but some of them were really cool. Especially the beginning of the book. The eerie feeling was great!
The original hand drawn things, poems, and 'how I wrote We Were Liars' were really cool. Most authors don't include this, even though I think it's good to see the progress of a story for people who might plan to write their first one themselves.
(Also kinda glad the name 'Let's do and say we didn't' was changed to 'we were liars')
Despite everything I still liked the story. The plot. What happened. It didn't turn out like I hoped for, but it was still interesting to read. And honestly I wasn't triggered by anything.
Also, thanks for the spoiler warning for the #0 book as I wanted to actually start this one and didn't know that it would spoiler the other one 😅
All parts of the book are so different. The beginning gave me eerie and kinda spooky feelings — I was totally invested.
The middle part was medium-paced and gave me standard thriller vibes.
The romance was so weird. I used to find it cute at the beginning but it turned out to be more dramatic than necessary and both their decisions weren't really great and I think only hurt their relationship more than doing good.
The ending was disappointing. I had many theories how it would go and this wasn't one. So one could say the ending wasn't predictable, which I usually love, but I wished for it to be something else actually. I thought the story is perhaps about grief and the whole gory things were metaphors for being sad inside and needing to supress it as everyone in this family does it. I mean they don't even want to talk about people that passed. And the eerie vibe at the beginning made me think that it includes perhaps a bit of horror.
I had so many theories and so many great ideas for an ending, I even thought it was a Shakespeare re-telling of King Lear. What a disappointment.
I think the explanation at the end of the book why they were called bad liars was great, but it would have been better to include the scene of origin for this in the book so that we readers don't feel confused about it the whole time while reading.
Afterword
Before anyone says that the whole book copied other books (as one can see in her sketch for the book) I would disagree, as she only got Inspiration for a few aspects and didn't copy everything. I would call it Inspiration. And inspirations are great, they help you to get a better picture of how the story is supposed to be and might even motivate you.
Her whole preparations are well organised and I very very much appreciate her for showing us them. It can help so many. Help them to start they own book one day.
27. July 2024
When I saw that the book has 87 chapters I was like: What
But guess who's happy now for getting short chapters to read :D
Writing style was, well, interesting. I mean sometimes it was out of place and I was confused or preferred if it wasn't written down some parts, but some of them were really cool. Especially the beginning of the book. The eerie feeling was great!
The original hand drawn things, poems, and 'how I wrote We Were Liars' were really cool. Most authors don't include this, even though I think it's good to see the progress of a story for people who might plan to write their first one themselves.
(Also kinda glad the name 'Let's do and say we didn't' was changed to 'we were liars')
Despite everything I still liked the story. The plot. What happened. It didn't turn out like I hoped for, but it was still interesting to read. And honestly I wasn't triggered by anything.
Also, thanks for the spoiler warning for the #0 book as I wanted to actually start this one and didn't know that it would spoiler the other one 😅
All parts of the book are so different. The beginning gave me eerie and kinda spooky feelings — I was totally invested.
The middle part was medium-paced and gave me standard thriller vibes.
The romance was so weird. I used to find it cute at the beginning but it turned out to be more dramatic than necessary and both their decisions weren't really great and I think only hurt their relationship more than doing good.
The ending was disappointing. I had many theories how it would go and this wasn't one. So one could say the ending wasn't predictable, which I usually love, but I wished for it to be something else actually. I thought the story is perhaps about grief and the whole gory things were metaphors for being sad inside and needing to supress it as everyone in this family does it. I mean they don't even want to talk about people that passed. And the eerie vibe at the beginning made me think that it includes perhaps a bit of horror.
I had so many theories and so many great ideas for an ending, I even thought it was a Shakespeare re-telling of King Lear. What a disappointment.
I think the explanation at the end of the book why they were called bad liars was great, but it would have been better to include the scene of origin for this in the book so that we readers don't feel confused about it the whole time while reading.
Afterword
Before anyone says that the whole book copied other books (as one can see in her sketch for the book) I would disagree, as she only got Inspiration for a few aspects and didn't copy everything. I would call it Inspiration. And inspirations are great, they help you to get a better picture of how the story is supposed to be and might even motivate you.
Her whole preparations are well organised and I very very much appreciate her for showing us them. It can help so many. Help them to start they own book one day.
27. July 2024
Content Warnings
Graphic: Animal death, Child death, Chronic illness, Death, Mental illness, Panic attacks/disorders, Grief, Medical trauma, Murder, Fire/Fire injury, and Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Addiction, Cursing, Drug use, Emotional abuse, Racism, Self harm, Suicidal thoughts, Toxic relationship, Xenophobia, Blood, Dementia, Gaslighting, and Classism
Minor: Rape, Vomit, Death of parent, Abandonment, and Alcohol
The book also includes survivor guilt also known as KZ syndromearremsie's review against another edition
dark
mysterious
tense
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.0
Content Warnings
Moderate: Fire/Fire injury
Minor: Alcoholism, Animal death, and Classism
mcdevimm's review against another edition
dark
emotional
tense
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
0.5
Content Warnings
Graphic: Emotional abuse, Toxic relationship, and Fire/Fire injury
Moderate: Animal death, Child death, Death, Alcohol, and Classism
justcallme_blondie's review against another edition
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
2.5
Some people think BookTok is ruining reading and I disagreed, until this book.
I think book had potential. that's why I gave it two and a half stars instead of one. I actually liked the whole concept of a girl solving a mystery surrounding her family after suffering brain damage and I did enjoy the whole subplot of Gat and Cadence.
Gat and her might actually make a good couple if she wasn't so insufferable (more on this later). Gat actually seemed really hot and like the only one with common sense on the whole island. "He stops in front of me, breathing hard. His hair sticks up, bedhead. The muscles of his abdomen ripple and he seems much more naked than he would in a swimsuit." (see page 93)
This is my personal opinion, but this is a great way to show teenage awkwardness and moments of physical attraction.
What I Didn't Like:
- The purple prose. The purple prose was unnecessary. I'm definitely not saying this book had to be as bland as a box of saltines. Not at all! But the purple prose makes it difficult to distinguish the metaphors from the actuality.
For example:
"Then he pulled out a handgun and shot me in the chest. I was standing on the lawn on I fell. The bullet hole opened wide and my heart rolled out of my rib cage and down into a flower bed." (see page 5)
This is just a metaphor for her dad's leaving/divorce to be especially hard but it could have been demonstrated in other ways. It was very confusing to me because I literally thought her dad shot her and that was her trauma in the beginning. But, then again, maybe I'm just stupid.
But then it was also difficult because at one point she talks about her wrists bleeding in front of Gat and I couldn't tell if this was a metaphor for her spilling her guts in front of him or what, but she was actually bleeding! Then, it was also confusing because it was never discussed why her wrists are bleeding, so then I thought she was self-harming. but that was never discussed.
I also didn't like the family tree. This is a weird complaint and I'm not talking about the actual drawing but I didn't like how there was practically no character building. There was a set of twins in the story and some cousins and aunts but after two weeks I can barely remember any of the characters except for Cadence, the Grandfather, Mirren (barely. I only remember reading something about her and Mirren forced to beg for tablecloths or something and I can't recall her relation to Cadence), and Gat. I didn't even know that the mother had two sisters except for when she started introducing those quirky fairy tales. I can't even remember who a "Liar" is and who isn't. (which is also confusing because I'm pretty sure only Cadence calls them Liars and it isn't really discussed why...)
Characters. I didn't like any of the characters except Gat. Don't get me wrong - they all had potential.
Cadence - She was too "not like other girls" for my taste. The whole story she says "I'm not like other girls because other girls have blonde hair but I dyed mine black. I'm not like other girls because I have trauma. I'm not like other girls because I'm donating things. etc.," She was basically a self-insert, Y/N-type character for those girlies in 2014 when this was published, who like to hate conforming, cheerleader types. Another thing I didn't like about Cadence was the fact that she was randomly donating things and acted like she was woke for that. She was too pretentious and I understand that the whole point of the story is that they're supposed to be overindulged but it was a bit too on the nose and made for an annoying read.
Grandpa - He was annoying but the best annoying character there. I actually thoroughly enjoyed reading about him because it was such a perfect example of an egotistical spoiled white man.
Gat - This man was another of the handful of likable characters. He can have my soul. He is the perfect pretentious woke teenager. Like I wanted Gat because Cadence surely didn't deserve him.
That's all I can remember of characters.
The plot twist. It could have been done so well but it flopped. It was a stupid and unbelievable idea that a group of kids would willingly agree to commit arson with a visibly mentally unstable teenager. Like and the fact that everyone ignored it? Girlie? What were they thinking?! I almost cried but not because this book was so mind blowing but because I wished it was better.
Something else I didn't like was the weird formatting.
The whole story was like this:
I
am
not like
those weird
o
t
h
e
r
girls. im different.
because i almost died as the flowers wrapped around my neck in peaceful scarf before fashioning themselves into a necklace growing tighter and tighter until the sun scooped me up and dyed my hair blonde again. i am mad. i want black hair because i'm different.
The fairy tales did nothing to add to the story and were weird and confusing. I found myself skipping them sometimes.
Things I Did Like:
Besides Gat, I liked the small chapters. I love a book with shorter chapters because I can get into more I feel like and this is definitely something this book accomplished.
I did like some of the descriptions of Gat and Cadence together and their love.
I did like the idea of the story and felt it could have been done well. The novel was a good size, it dragged on in parts but wasn't unbearably long.
So, read with caution but just know you're going to wish you had thought of this idea before E. Lockhart so you could've written a better novel.
I think book had potential. that's why I gave it two and a half stars instead of one. I actually liked the whole concept of a girl solving a mystery surrounding her family after suffering brain damage and I did enjoy the whole subplot of Gat and Cadence.
Gat and her might actually make a good couple if she wasn't so insufferable (more on this later). Gat actually seemed really hot and like the only one with common sense on the whole island. "He stops in front of me, breathing hard. His hair sticks up, bedhead. The muscles of his abdomen ripple and he seems much more naked than he would in a swimsuit." (see page 93)
This is my personal opinion, but this is a great way to show teenage awkwardness and moments of physical attraction.
What I Didn't Like:
- The purple prose. The purple prose was unnecessary. I'm definitely not saying this book had to be as bland as a box of saltines. Not at all! But the purple prose makes it difficult to distinguish the metaphors from the actuality.
For example:
"Then he pulled out a handgun and shot me in the chest. I was standing on the lawn on I fell. The bullet hole opened wide and my heart rolled out of my rib cage and down into a flower bed." (see page 5)
This is just a metaphor for her dad's leaving/divorce to be especially hard but it could have been demonstrated in other ways. It was very confusing to me because I literally thought her dad shot her and that was her trauma in the beginning. But, then again, maybe I'm just stupid.
But then it was also difficult because at one point she talks about her wrists bleeding in front of Gat and I couldn't tell if this was a metaphor for her spilling her guts in front of him or what, but she was actually bleeding! Then, it was also confusing because it was never discussed why her wrists are bleeding, so then I thought she was self-harming. but that was never discussed.
I also didn't like the family tree. This is a weird complaint and I'm not talking about the actual drawing but I didn't like how there was practically no character building. There was a set of twins in the story and some cousins and aunts but after two weeks I can barely remember any of the characters except for Cadence, the Grandfather, Mirren (barely. I only remember reading something about her and Mirren forced to beg for tablecloths or something and I can't recall her relation to Cadence), and Gat. I didn't even know that the mother had two sisters except for when she started introducing those quirky fairy tales. I can't even remember who a "Liar" is and who isn't. (which is also confusing because I'm pretty sure only Cadence calls them Liars and it isn't really discussed why...)
Characters. I didn't like any of the characters except Gat. Don't get me wrong - they all had potential.
Cadence - She was too "not like other girls" for my taste. The whole story she says "I'm not like other girls because other girls have blonde hair but I dyed mine black. I'm not like other girls because I have trauma. I'm not like other girls because I'm donating things. etc.," She was basically a self-insert, Y/N-type character for those girlies in 2014 when this was published, who like to hate conforming, cheerleader types. Another thing I didn't like about Cadence was the fact that she was randomly donating things and acted like she was woke for that. She was too pretentious and I understand that the whole point of the story is that they're supposed to be overindulged but it was a bit too on the nose and made for an annoying read.
Grandpa - He was annoying but the best annoying character there. I actually thoroughly enjoyed reading about him because it was such a perfect example of an egotistical spoiled white man.
Gat - This man was another of the handful of likable characters. He can have my soul. He is the perfect pretentious woke teenager. Like I wanted Gat because Cadence surely didn't deserve him.
That's all I can remember of characters.
The plot twist. It could have been done so well but it flopped. It was a stupid and unbelievable idea that a group of kids would willingly agree to commit arson with a visibly mentally unstable teenager. Like and the fact that everyone ignored it? Girlie? What were they thinking?! I almost cried but not because this book was so mind blowing but because I wished it was better.
Something else I didn't like was the weird formatting.
The whole story was like this:
I
am
not like
those weird
o
t
h
e
r
girls. im different.
because i almost died as the flowers wrapped around my neck in peaceful scarf before fashioning themselves into a necklace growing tighter and tighter until the sun scooped me up and dyed my hair blonde again. i am mad. i want black hair because i'm different.
The fairy tales did nothing to add to the story and were weird and confusing. I found myself skipping them sometimes.
Things I Did Like:
Besides Gat, I liked the small chapters. I love a book with shorter chapters because I can get into more I feel like and this is definitely something this book accomplished.
I did like some of the descriptions of Gat and Cadence together and their love.
I did like the idea of the story and felt it could have been done well. The novel was a good size, it dragged on in parts but wasn't unbearably long.
So, read with caution but just know you're going to wish you had thought of this idea before E. Lockhart so you could've written a better novel.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death, Self harm, Fire/Fire injury, and Classism
ame_why's review against another edition
dark
emotional
mysterious
reflective
sad
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.0
Content Warnings
Moderate: Alcoholism, Animal death, Child death, Chronic illness, Death, Suicidal thoughts, Dementia, Grief, Fire/Fire injury, Injury/Injury detail, and Classism
whynotreadwithalex's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
emotional
mysterious
reflective
sad
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Devastating. Honestly, I don't know if I can put into words the feelings this book stirred up within me.
I suppose I should start by saying that I don't read sad books. Like, ever. And when I do, it is by accident and begrudgingly. And NEVER in the "hurt-no-comfort" category. Because I don't like being sad on purpose. Period.
However, a friend of mine gifted me this book when she moved, and after all the hype surrounding it when it came out, and of course the intriguing premise, I knew I was going to have to just power through and give it a chance.
Even though I knew it would be devastating.
And even when I reached the halfway mark and guessed at the truth hidden underneath the lies -- at which point, I knew for certain that I was going to be, you guessed it: devastated -- I wanted to finish it. To feel it and live it with Cady.
Oh, my poor, sweet Cady. How I wish I could just wrap you up in the biggest of hugs.
All in all, this is an excellent book. Devastating, yes. But exquisitely told. Grief is explored in every aspect. And as much as we would all rather avoid this kind of heartache, it comes for each of us. And this book does an amazing job of taking the reader through the process of pain, acceptance, healing, denial, and hope that surfaces even as the wounds turn to scars and the phantom pains set in. I can't say that I loved this book, because it's still so fresh and raw and, well, painful. But I needed it. My soul needed it.
I suppose I should start by saying that I don't read sad books. Like, ever. And when I do, it is by accident and begrudgingly. And NEVER in the "hurt-no-comfort" category. Because I don't like being sad on purpose. Period.
However, a friend of mine gifted me this book when she moved, and after all the hype surrounding it when it came out, and of course the intriguing premise, I knew I was going to have to just power through and give it a chance.
Even though I knew it would be devastating.
And even when I reached the halfway mark and guessed at the truth hidden underneath the lies -- at which point, I knew for certain that I was going to be, you guessed it: devastated -- I wanted to finish it. To feel it and live it with Cady.
Oh, my poor, sweet Cady. How I wish I could just wrap you up in the biggest of hugs.
All in all, this is an excellent book. Devastating, yes. But exquisitely told. Grief is explored in every aspect. And as much as we would all rather avoid this kind of heartache, it comes for each of us. And this book does an amazing job of taking the reader through the process of pain, acceptance, healing, denial, and hope that surfaces even as the wounds turn to scars and the phantom pains set in. I can't say that I loved this book, because it's still so fresh and raw and, well, painful. But I needed it. My soul needed it.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Child death, Death, Mental illness, Racism, Medical content, Grief, Medical trauma, Fire/Fire injury, Abandonment, Injury/Injury detail, and Classism
Moderate: Alcoholism, Animal death, Cursing, Emotional abuse, Forced institutionalization, Gaslighting, and Alcohol
reemoony's review against another edition
dark
emotional
mysterious
sad
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? N/A
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
the main premise of this book is that the ending is supposed to be this huge, unexpected thing. i went into this thinking that no plot twist could ever catch me off guard. this one did. as i was reading and learning little things, i kept thinking. is this it? is this the huge twist ive been waiting for? if so, shitty book. but it hits you in the face, and i love this book so much for that. genuinely, if anyone asks you how it ends, just lie.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Addiction, Alcoholism, Animal death, Chronic illness, Death, Drug use, Mental illness, Suicidal thoughts, Grief, Schizophrenia/Psychosis , Fire/Fire injury, Alcohol, and Classism
crieraylas's review against another edition
dark
emotional
mysterious
reflective
tense
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
2.5
Content Warnings
Graphic: Animal death, Child death, Chronic illness, Death, Drug use, Mental illness, Racism, Suicidal thoughts, Grief, Schizophrenia/Psychosis , Fire/Fire injury, Injury/Injury detail, and Classism
Moderate: Addiction, Alcoholism, Medical content, Medical trauma, Murder, and Alcohol
Minor: Infidelity, Misogyny, Rape, and Blood