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andtheywereroommates's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Graphic: Murder, War, Violence, Homophobia, Torture, Blood, Misogyny, Death, Physical abuse, Dysphoria, Ableism, and Grief
Moderate: Racism, Alcohol, Sexual harassment, Sexual content, Child death, Animal cruelty, Fire/Fire injury, Mental illness, and Death of parent
death, mutilation, trauma, tourture, death of a perant/offscreen death of a child, animal death, violence, abelism, war, PTSD, even more death, misogyny, homophobia- internal and external,saburat's review against another edition
but one too many comparisons to Mongolians being a different, lower breed, and the insulting of parts of Central Asian (we are using a generalisation here, as they do have common traits that are shared) material culture, our culture by the narrative itself proved itself too much to bear.
the prose has unfired clay legs. we reckon that if it had been put to the kiln once more, shaped and fired, she who became the sun would have then become the book we'd adored. but as it is, it reads less like a novel and more like a skeletal outline of what it ought to be. the opening was strong, very strong, and held itself like so, but afterwards zhu's personality seemed to be hollowed out with overdramatic, shallow feats of her supposed bravery and desire to live that neither had held themselves seriously, rebuking own impact with turn-around jokes, nor they were rooted to the brutal survival drive zhu chongba had been set on and grounded in at the beginning. maybe we would believe them, would we had seen that the buddhist philosophy had become the outermost layer of the strata that lay on the bedrock of crude survival — instead, we were met with time skips that made our head spin, and crude paragraph breaks.
paired with a structure unfavorable to us, most of this novel's prose is exhausted on telling you how you ought to perceive a character, what they thought, and how they felt at the moment. "a character saw [x], but they realized it was actually [y], as they were [z]" — this one is a white lie of sorts, as the author's writing is stronger than that, but in the end, that was our main take-away. the narrative distanced itself from the characters with a crude valley, and i did not feel engulfed in the world of an epic historical fantasy at all. a hand gripped our shoulder feverishly instead, pointed fingers at hazy figures, told us they were the characters, and one of them was full of desire, the second one of them wanted revenge and his manhood back, and else. i felt like a tourist that had to accept the tour guide's skewed belief of the reality they had thrust themselves into as the truth. therefore, i had learned that my culture's traditional women's wedding headdress are stupid conical hats. that it was not the Xiongnu empire, but the Mongolians (or, Mongols, as the narrative says) themselves, that invaded the Chinese dynasties. that we are, as the tradition in storytelling proclaims, polygynous raving patriarchs who only think about war, sex and casting out our family members as soon as they inconvenience us.
and i was still ready to understand it. but the brute stereotyping was not of the commoners having to carry the weight of the empyrean reality. the adjectives did not exist in the minds of the characters, but were written in by the narrative, almost as if it were an afterthought. we did not feel like we were reading about a grimdark, imperialistic reality, but more of a vacuum with various worldbuilding elements thrown in, strung loosely with strings and dehumanization peppered in — a dehumanization that, sadly, doesn't exist only in the universe of she who became the sun, but the reality we have to deal with on a day-to-day basis as well.
ally W for Xu Da, though. i like him. :)
Graphic: Racism
percys_panda_pillow_pet's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.25
I have heard a lot about this book online. I know it's fairly popular and heralded as a Sapphic masterpiece. It is definitely good, that's for certain. I don't feel like it was too over-hyped, though the Sapphic elements were not what expected. However, I still loved the Sapphic relationship and the dynamics between the two characters. It was interesting to see how they balanced each other.
I really really enjoyed the worldbuilding and characters, both were big strengths for the novel and what drew me in the most. Though sometimes I felt lost in the different cultures portrayed, it wasn't a constant feeling and the writing emphasized the important themes and points that meant that total understanding wasn't entirely necessary.
Zhu's POV was my favorite part of the book. While Ouyang had interesting sections as well, especially as we got to know his character and motivations, I'm a total sucker for "chosen one" tropes and Zhu is very similar to that in the way she chases her fate. Because of this, I definitely felt like there was a bit of an odd balance to the POVs and pacing, in addition to the fact that the book is overall a slow book. But I didn't mind once I got to the end. The end was so perfect to keep readers on their toes and maintain intrigue for the sequel, which is part of the reason I waited to write this: so that I could read the sequel right away!
Reading this actually made me want to reread similar books, like Wesley Chu's The Art of Prophecy and Sue Lynn Tan's Daughter of the Moon Goddess. Anyways, if you're curious about She Who Became the Sun by Shelley Parker-Chan now that the sequel is out, I definitely think it is worth the read!
Graphic: Death of parent, Injury/Injury detail, Misogyny, Vomit, Homophobia, Transphobia, Sexism, Violence, War, Murder, and Death
Moderate: Xenophobia, Racism, and Animal death
Minor: Sexual harassment and Religious bigotry
mpbookreviews's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.75
Graphic: Animal death, Child death, Injury/Injury detail, Blood, Torture, Death of parent, Racism, Murder, Misogyny, Sexism, Sexual content, Vomit, War, Death, and Violence
bibliomania_express's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
5.0
Graphic: Murder, Toxic friendship, Grief, Genocide, Animal death, Emotional abuse, Violence, Torture, Racism, Gore, Xenophobia, War, Vomit, Toxic relationship, Slavery, Sexism, Physical abuse, Misogyny, Medical content, Injury/Injury detail, Fire/Fire injury, Dysphoria, Death, Child death, Body horror, Blood, and Ableism
braveprincess11's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
At the end of the first chapter, I still didn’t quite understand what I was in for, but by the end of Part 1, I was HOOKED.
Their ability to write such unique and compelling characters who experience gender, desire, and ambition in such similar and yet opposing ways, all while working in the confines of an extremely patriarchal society…
I’m desperate for the next book already
Graphic: Classism, Blood, Sexual content, Violence, Dysphoria, Misogyny, Death of parent, Child death, Body horror, Murder, Injury/Injury detail, Death, and War
Moderate: Racism and Ableism
Minor: Colonisation
jessiereads98's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
2.5
The most compelling part of this story was the character of Ouyang and his relationships. That being said, I would still cut Ouyang’s story from the book entirely. I see how he works as a mirror to Zhu’s character, but him and his story aren’t necessary. This book is too long with too many POVs that are wholly unnecessary and while technically they come into contact occasionally, they really aren’t that relevant to each other. No POV adds anything to the others. The jumps between POVs are also extremely jarring at times. Overall, I found it difficult to care about any character due to a lack of consistent characterization and constant jumps.
There’s no real payoff from the magic here. This is heavy on the military and light on the fantasy to the point where for me it drops to more magical realism than true fantasy. This was really disappointing since it had potential. However, almost every time
I can recognize the writing in this book on its own is objectively, technically very well done. However, it still reads very dry and drags for about 300-350 pages. The ending was good, but it wasn’t worth the rest of the book. This ended up feeling like an excessively elaborate and unnecessary set up for whatever is going to happen in the sequel.
Graphic: Violence, Homophobia, Misogyny, Ableism, War, and Transphobia
Moderate: Death, Death of parent, Blood, Child death, Fire/Fire injury, Grief, and Sexism
Minor: Excrement, Vomit, Animal death, Slavery, Racism, Sexual content, Alcohol, and Colonisation
talonsontypewriters's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
Graphic: Fire/Fire injury, Misogyny, Death, Colonisation, Dysphoria, War, Violence, Injury/Injury detail, Blood, Sexism, Murder, Grief, Classism, and Gore
Moderate: Child abuse, Death of parent, Torture, Slavery, Sexual content, Child death, Ableism, Racism, and Xenophobia
Minor: Vomit, Alcohol, Excrement, Homophobia, Pregnancy, Infidelity, Animal death, Animal cruelty, and Cannibalism
anjasshelf's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Graphic: Injury/Injury detail, Child abuse, Gore, Sexism, Blood, Death of parent, Murder, War, Sexual content, Child death, Death, and Violence
Moderate: Racism, Dysphoria, Vomit, Classism, Suicidal thoughts, Rape, Alcohol, Misogyny, and Racial slurs
Minor: Grief
thecatconstellation's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
Graphic: Sexual content, Death of parent, War, Gore, Death, Blood, Violence, and Torture
Moderate: Racism, Misogyny, Grief, Animal death, Sexism, Alcohol, Colonisation, Murder, Injury/Injury detail, Xenophobia, Genocide, Child abuse, Child death, Bullying, Ableism, and Body shaming
Minor: Suicide