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logolepsy_star's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
inspiring
mysterious
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
3.75
I didn’t like this book as much as the first, and it did take me longer to get through it than the first.
Like the first book, this book meanders and it sometimes seems like not much is happening. I definitely felt this way during the Felurian chapters. To me they were extremely unnecessary and boring. I’m not sure what the purpose of that part of the story served for the overall plot. I had this problem with the Ademre chapters too, but not as bad.
Other than that, this book was really good! It was well written and entertaining. I liked that we got to leave the university and explore the world a bit more. Kvothe’s adventures in Vintas and Ademre were fun to read about. I also felt this book helped flesh out Kvothe’s friends a bit more too. Although I’m not sure how to feel about Denna. She disappears and then reappears when you least expect her to, which is interesting at first but then gets old after a while. I would also have liked to see her character fleshed out a bit more too.
So, I would say this book wasn’t as good as the first but it’s still good regardless!
Like the first book, this book meanders and it sometimes seems like not much is happening. I definitely felt this way during the Felurian chapters. To me they were extremely unnecessary and boring. I’m not sure what the purpose of that part of the story served for the overall plot. I had this problem with the Ademre chapters too, but not as bad.
Other than that, this book was really good! It was well written and entertaining. I liked that we got to leave the university and explore the world a bit more. Kvothe’s adventures in Vintas and Ademre were fun to read about. I also felt this book helped flesh out Kvothe’s friends a bit more too. Although I’m not sure how to feel about Denna. She disappears and then reappears when you least expect her to, which is interesting at first but then gets old after a while. I would also have liked to see her character fleshed out a bit more too.
So, I would say this book wasn’t as good as the first but it’s still good regardless!
Content Warnings
Graphic: Sexual content and Violence
unthank's review against another edition
adventurous
lighthearted
mysterious
reflective
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Sexual content, Blood, Death of parent, and Murder
Moderate: Sexism, Violence, and Xenophobia
Minor: Suicidal thoughts
thewallner's review against another edition
4.0
CW: mention of SA in review
I really enjoy this series and am hopeful that the author will finish it someday. The storytelling is captivating, and I’m invested in finding out how the story ends.
I do have a problem with it though - that I felt in the first book, The Name of the Wind, and really just solidified in this one - and that is the attitudes toward women. The series takes about 400 pages to even introduce a female character and when it does, it’s through the lens of a 14 year old boy who is completely obsessed with her and flattens her into a one-dimensional character. Unfortunately, The Wise Man’s Fear doesn’t do much to rectify the situation. There are a few more female characters, which helps, but the protagonist still holds such a weird view toward women. He’s either objectifying them or saving them at every turn.I think the thing that was the nail in the coffin for me, was when he responded “not all men” after saving two women who had been held hostage and raped repeatedly. I just…
There are other weird moments around the treatment of women in these book too, you don’t have to look very hard.
I really enjoy this series and am hopeful that the author will finish it someday. The storytelling is captivating, and I’m invested in finding out how the story ends.
I do have a problem with it though - that I felt in the first book, The Name of the Wind, and really just solidified in this one - and that is the attitudes toward women. The series takes about 400 pages to even introduce a female character and when it does, it’s through the lens of a 14 year old boy who is completely obsessed with her and flattens her into a one-dimensional character. Unfortunately, The Wise Man’s Fear doesn’t do much to rectify the situation. There are a few more female characters, which helps, but the protagonist still holds such a weird view toward women. He’s either objectifying them or saving them at every turn.
There are other weird moments around the treatment of women in these book too, you don’t have to look very hard.
Content Warnings
Moderate: Adult/minor relationship, Rape, Sexual assault, Violence, and Murder
fairhairedwarrior's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
emotional
funny
inspiring
mysterious
reflective
tense
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.75
Content Warnings
Moderate: Gore, Sexual content, and Violence
Minor: Rape
celey's review against another edition
adventurous
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Another fun trip with Kvothe. Doesn’t sing the same way the first one does, but a really fun read with a return from the characters I already loved and some great new ones.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Violence
Moderate: Domestic abuse, Physical abuse, and Sexual violence
cooldudenick's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
emotional
mysterious
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
Content Warnings
Graphic: Violence and Murder
Moderate: Alcohol
Minor: Racism, Rape, Sexual content, Kidnapping, and Injury/Injury detail
connora795's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
mysterious
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
3.5
The book was good, I liked that Kvothe got some character development he REALLY needed. I wish he didn’t spend so much time in the university or so much time simping over Denna
Content Warnings
Graphic: Sexual content
Moderate: Violence
mhshokuhi's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
emotional
funny
mysterious
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
2.75
به طور کلی کتاب خوبی نبود. نه تنها نزدیک به میزانی که هایپ میشه نیست، حتی کتاب قابل توجهی هم نیست.
البته منظورم این نیست که کتاب بدیه، کتاب پر از وقایع باحال و جذابه و هر کدوم جداگانه چیزهای خوبیاند و مشخصه که نویسنده خیلی ایده جذاب داره اما نمیتونه انتخاب کنه و میخواد به همشون یکجا بپردازه و این باعث میشه کتاب به شدت طولانی، پر از وقایع نامهم و بالا و پایینهای نامنظم باشه. اگه کتاب به چند جلد مختلف تقسیم میشد (مثلاً یه رمان اصلی و یه سری کتاب جانبی) که هر کتاب فراز و فرود خودش رو داشته باشه واقعاً نتیجهاش به نظرم بهتر میشد. الان اینطوریه که با حال و هوای کتاب قبل شروع میکنی، یکهو اما بورینگ و پر از روابط درباری میشه، یکهو ماجراجویی و اکشن میشه، یکهو کووت آفتاب مهتاب ندیده خدای سکس میشه و بعدش میره فنون پیشرفته سکسفو (بر وزن کونگفو. توی یکی از نقدها دیدم، خیلی واژهسازی خوبی کرده بود برای این قسمت کتاب 🤣) رو از یه پری یاد میگیره اما به جای اینکه عقلش رو از دست بده (ملت از شدت عشق به فِلوریِن دیوانه میشن یا هرچی) یا بلایی سرش بیاد سر یه واقعه دیگه (که باید بیاد) در میره الکی الکی و بعدش یکهو نویسنده میپره پایین و باز بورینگ میشه و شروع به توصیف یه سری آدم میکنه که روی اعصابن و مثلاً میخوان یه ویچر-اسسین به نظر بیان اما در اون حد نیستن و جذابیت خاصی ندارن و و رسوماتشون مسخره است -_- حالا بعد اون باز کتاب یکم بهتر میشه اما کلا چیز تازهای برای عرضه نداره و تکراری هست همه چیزها و نمیتونم خودم رو راضی کنم بیشتر از ۲.۷۵ بهش بدم. در حد ۲ نیست اما ۳ هم زیادشه 😅
مشکلم البته با بالا و پایین شدن نیست، مشکلم با یکهویی بودن همه چیزه، کلا هی از این ماجرا میپره به اون ماجرا بدون transition درست و حسابی و حس میکنی داری ۵۰تا داستان کوتاه بیربط رو میخونی که ۴۸تاش ابدا مهم نیستن برای داستان اصلی که یادش رفته تعریف کنه نویسنده.
کتاب قبلی سیر پیشرفت خیلی بهتر داشت، هی موضوع جذاب میگذاشت جلوت و توی چند فصل آینده شرح میداد و همینطور تا آخر و مشکلات دیگهای که توی نقد اون کتاب گفتم رو کامل میپوشوند.
و وای، راتفوس چقدر از کلمه nonchalant و مشتقاتش استفاده میکنه، دیوانه شدم -_- نانشلانت و کوفت و زهر مار. یه سری عبارت و اینهای دیگه هم هستن که به شدت زیاد استفاده میشن و واقعاً روی اعصابم بودن. اصلاً نشونه خوبی توی نویسندگی نیست به نظرم اونم وقتی جملهبندیهات ابدا سنگین یا کهنه یا اپیک نیست 😬
البته تلاش کرده جملاتش آهنگین باشه یه سری جاها و بد هم نیست اما اونقدر هم مهم نیست. مثلاً مقایسه کنید با آهنگ جملات تالکین که شاید به راحتی(؟) این نباشه آهنگش مثلاً اما اونجا قشنگ انگار به نفر روی صندلی نشسته و یه کتاب بزرگ دستش هست و داره برات داستان میخونه، برخلاف اینجا که کووت مثلاً داره همین کار رو میکنه حدوداً.
واقعاً میخواستم که این مجموعه رو دوست داشته باشم و با کلی ذوق و شوق شروع کردم اما نشد :/ بهخصوص حدود یک سوم آخر جلد ۲ رو به زور جلو بردم. جلد سوم وقتی بیاد اگه جلد آخر باشه میخونمش که تمومش کرده باشم، اما اگه بخواد کشش بده بعیده سراغش برم 😬
البته منظورم این نیست که کتاب بدیه، کتاب پر از وقایع باحال و جذابه و هر کدوم جداگانه چیزهای خوبیاند و مشخصه که نویسنده خیلی ایده جذاب داره اما نمیتونه انتخاب کنه و میخواد به همشون یکجا بپردازه و این باعث میشه کتاب به شدت طولانی، پر از وقایع نامهم و بالا و پایینهای نامنظم باشه. اگه کتاب به چند جلد مختلف تقسیم میشد (مثلاً یه رمان اصلی و یه سری کتاب جانبی) که هر کتاب فراز و فرود خودش رو داشته باشه واقعاً نتیجهاش به نظرم بهتر میشد. الان اینطوریه که با حال و هوای کتاب قبل شروع میکنی، یکهو اما بورینگ و پر از روابط درباری میشه، یکهو ماجراجویی و اکشن میشه، یکهو کووت آفتاب مهتاب ندیده خدای سکس میشه و بعدش میره فنون پیشرفته سکسفو (بر وزن کونگفو. توی یکی از نقدها دیدم، خیلی واژهسازی خوبی کرده بود برای این قسمت کتاب 🤣) رو از یه پری یاد میگیره اما به جای اینکه عقلش رو از دست بده (ملت از شدت عشق به فِلوریِن دیوانه میشن یا هرچی) یا بلایی سرش بیاد سر یه واقعه دیگه (که باید بیاد) در میره الکی الکی و بعدش یکهو نویسنده میپره پایین و باز بورینگ میشه و شروع به توصیف یه سری آدم میکنه که روی اعصابن و مثلاً میخوان یه ویچر-اسسین به نظر بیان اما در اون حد نیستن و جذابیت خاصی ندارن و و رسوماتشون مسخره است -_- حالا بعد اون باز کتاب یکم بهتر میشه اما کلا چیز تازهای برای عرضه نداره و تکراری هست همه چیزها و نمیتونم خودم رو راضی کنم بیشتر از ۲.۷۵ بهش بدم. در حد ۲ نیست اما ۳ هم زیادشه 😅
مشکلم البته با بالا و پایین شدن نیست، مشکلم با یکهویی بودن همه چیزه، کلا هی از این ماجرا میپره به اون ماجرا بدون transition درست و حسابی و حس میکنی داری ۵۰تا داستان کوتاه بیربط رو میخونی که ۴۸تاش ابدا مهم نیستن برای داستان اصلی که یادش رفته تعریف کنه نویسنده.
کتاب قبلی سیر پیشرفت خیلی بهتر داشت، هی موضوع جذاب میگذاشت جلوت و توی چند فصل آینده شرح میداد و همینطور تا آخر و مشکلات دیگهای که توی نقد اون کتاب گفتم رو کامل میپوشوند.
و وای، راتفوس چقدر از کلمه nonchalant و مشتقاتش استفاده میکنه، دیوانه شدم -_- نانشلانت و کوفت و زهر مار. یه سری عبارت و اینهای دیگه هم هستن که به شدت زیاد استفاده میشن و واقعاً روی اعصابم بودن. اصلاً نشونه خوبی توی نویسندگی نیست به نظرم اونم وقتی جملهبندیهات ابدا سنگین یا کهنه یا اپیک نیست 😬
البته تلاش کرده جملاتش آهنگین باشه یه سری جاها و بد هم نیست اما اونقدر هم مهم نیست. مثلاً مقایسه کنید با آهنگ جملات تالکین که شاید به راحتی(؟) این نباشه آهنگش مثلاً اما اونجا قشنگ انگار به نفر روی صندلی نشسته و یه کتاب بزرگ دستش هست و داره برات داستان میخونه، برخلاف اینجا که کووت مثلاً داره همین کار رو میکنه حدوداً.
واقعاً میخواستم که این مجموعه رو دوست داشته باشم و با کلی ذوق و شوق شروع کردم اما نشد :/ بهخصوص حدود یک سوم آخر جلد ۲ رو به زور جلو بردم. جلد سوم وقتی بیاد اگه جلد آخر باشه میخونمش که تمومش کرده باشم، اما اگه بخواد کشش بده بعیده سراغش برم 😬
Content Warnings
Moderate: Sexual content and Toxic friendship
Minor: Rape, Toxic relationship, Violence, and Kidnapping
madmadmaddymad's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
reflective
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
5.0
I really enjoyed this book!
My favorite sequence is the time Kvothe spent with Felurian. (What can you expect? I’m faerie trash.) I did not enjoy the Ademre sequence - even though the women are badasses, I still found it somehow misogynistic. Maybe it’s because of Kvothe, and how he tainted the time he spent there by talking about how it’s not proper for women to fight, women where he comes from do not fight, and bemoaning that he was paired to spar with a little girl. I just found that that part of the book really dragged, and even though we spent a lot of time there, I didn’t get close to any of the women, and I didn’t get the feeling that Kvothe really respected any of the women? I was waiting for it to be over, and him to go back to the Maer. Even though I didn’t care much for the court politics and the Maer, I still felt like there was more life in that part of the story than the piece in the Ademre.
But aside from that portion of the book… this was such a captivating and excellent story. I still love the parts with Bast, the Chronicler, and Kvothe-the-tavernkeep the most. It feels so fresh to read a fantasy story this way - to have the days laid out this way, and the story told from the hero’s perspective while a perfect stranger and truly good friend listen in.
Bast is obviously still my favorite
I love a scary faerie man
My favorite sequence is the time Kvothe spent with Felurian. (What can you expect? I’m faerie trash.) I did not enjoy the Ademre sequence - even though the women are badasses, I still found it somehow misogynistic. Maybe it’s because of Kvothe, and how he tainted the time he spent there by talking about how it’s not proper for women to fight, women where he comes from do not fight, and bemoaning that he was paired to spar with a little girl. I just found that that part of the book really dragged, and even though we spent a lot of time there, I didn’t get close to any of the women, and I didn’t get the feeling that Kvothe really respected any of the women? I was waiting for it to be over, and him to go back to the Maer. Even though I didn’t care much for the court politics and the Maer, I still felt like there was more life in that part of the story than the piece in the Ademre.
But aside from that portion of the book… this was such a captivating and excellent story. I still love the parts with Bast, the Chronicler, and Kvothe-the-tavernkeep the most. It feels so fresh to read a fantasy story this way - to have the days laid out this way, and the story told from the hero’s perspective while a perfect stranger and truly good friend listen in.
Bast is obviously still my favorite
I love a scary faerie man
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death, Violence, Grief, and Murder
Moderate: Racism, Rape, and Sexual violence
Minor: Sexual content
eileencs27's review against another edition
adventurous
hopeful
mysterious
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Content Warnings
Moderate: Violence, Blood, and Murder
Minor: Physical abuse and Rape