lordhaku's review against another edition
challenging
dark
reflective
sad
tense
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death, Suicidal thoughts, War, Blood, Sexual assault, Sexual content, Torture, Cursing, Mental illness, Adult/minor relationship, Murder, and Police brutality
allyofshalott's review against another edition
challenging
dark
emotional
funny
lighthearted
sad
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.5
Okay - after finishing this I understand why it has the position it does in ~literature, but this was a slog for me. Funny and emotionally affecting at times, but took a while for me to see the pattern because of the lack of plot.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Racism, Misogyny, Rape, Violence, War, Racial slurs, Mental illness, Medical content, and Grief
friesenag's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
emotional
funny
mysterious
reflective
sad
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.0
This book is so interesting considering that the author himself was a B25 bombardier and that this is not speculation and the plot isn't too far fetched because it is based on his personal experiences in the war. I think Heller perfectly balanced the humor of the absurdity of how the U.S. Air Force was run and the gruesomeness of what war does to a person. He highlights the silliness of rank and order and doing things just because you're told and how that has more control on weather a man lives or dies rather than his own actions and how those actions along with the trauma of their compatriots dying makes them all go insane.
The way Heller writes gave me a headache though, as the plot would go back and forth I had to keep my spark notes open to make sure I was really comprehending what was happening. The first half of the book there is no chronological order and the repetition of words, phrases, or actions also created maximum confusion. When I think about it more it definitely is a plot device to give the book a lack of structure and repeat things which gives the reader a sensation of the chaos that is occurring in every single characters brains and on the base. Insanity and deja vu are major plot points in the book and I think Heller wanted to amplify it in the readers, which did give me the feeling that I was going crazy while reading this book. I see the genius and deliberate work that he put into it, but that does not mean I have to enjoy it.
I want to preface this last part by saying I know that this guy is like a boomer and it was written in 1961, but the MISOGYNY in this book was APPALLING. Women were only mentioned in a sexual connotation and used as a plot device and weren't really well thought out in my opinion. There was a character that wasn't even given a name and just referred to as "Nately's Whore" the whole time and she was bored and not interested in Nately until he "saved her" and then tried to control her and THEN he DIED and all of a sudden she cared enough about him to try to kill Yossarian???? Idk, there was just not a single female character that wasn't a sex object or stupid or a plot device.
Overall this book is good on the pretense that it was anti-war and the structure of the book makes you feel sick to your stomach, much like the structure of war and American bureaucracy, but I can't look past the misogyny, sexism, racism, etc. to give this more than three stars. I know I'm looking at this in a modern lens but there's not way I can separate the good and bad of this book. I would be very concerned if a man said this was their favorite book, its definitely an interesting read but I would classify it as pretty problematic.
The way Heller writes gave me a headache though, as the plot would go back and forth I had to keep my spark notes open to make sure I was really comprehending what was happening. The first half of the book there is no chronological order and the repetition of words, phrases, or actions also created maximum confusion. When I think about it more it definitely is a plot device to give the book a lack of structure and repeat things which gives the reader a sensation of the chaos that is occurring in every single characters brains and on the base. Insanity and deja vu are major plot points in the book and I think Heller wanted to amplify it in the readers, which did give me the feeling that I was going crazy while reading this book. I see the genius and deliberate work that he put into it, but that does not mean I have to enjoy it.
I want to preface this last part by saying I know that this guy is like a boomer and it was written in 1961, but the MISOGYNY in this book was APPALLING. Women were only mentioned in a sexual connotation and used as a plot device and weren't really well thought out in my opinion. There was a character that wasn't even given a name and just referred to as "Nately's Whore" the whole time and she was bored and not interested in Nately until he "saved her" and then tried to control her and THEN he DIED and all of a sudden she cared enough about him to try to kill Yossarian???? Idk, there was just not a single female character that wasn't a sex object or stupid or a plot device.
Overall this book is good on the pretense that it was anti-war and the structure of the book makes you feel sick to your stomach, much like the structure of war and American bureaucracy, but I can't look past the misogyny, sexism, racism, etc. to give this more than three stars. I know I'm looking at this in a modern lens but there's not way I can separate the good and bad of this book. I would be very concerned if a man said this was their favorite book, its definitely an interesting read but I would classify it as pretty problematic.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Gore, Violence, Sexual harassment, Sexism, Suicide, Sexual assault, Schizophrenia/Psychosis , Racial slurs, Misogyny, War, Death, and Vomit
Moderate: Antisemitism, Fire/Fire injury, Gaslighting, and Grief
Minor: Alcohol, Classism, Infidelity, Misogyny, Medical trauma, Mental illness, and Medical content
kensingtonska's review against another edition
adventurous
funny
reflective
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? N/A
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
Content Warnings
Moderate: War and Injury/Injury detail
lastonedown's review against another edition
challenging
dark
funny
reflective
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
5.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death, Gore, Rape, Sexual harassment, and Violence
Moderate: Racial slurs, Misogyny, Suicide, Rape, and War
Minor: Medical content and Murder
tildafin16's review against another edition
dark
funny
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
2.0
This is my husband’s favourite he told me he read it all in one day drinking on the beach (how??) and still remembers it all. Apart from showing you how different my taste is to my husband 🤣, this also clearly is the experience of many fans.
For me, I just don’t enjoy absurdist and repetitive writing; I was assured that it all comes together in the final third and becomes amazing; well, yeah, I guess I can see that , but by that time having slugged 300 plus pages of complex, constantly trying-to-be-funny-and-clever, absurd wordplay - I just didn’t care that much anymore and the impact of the ending section was lessened for me. I have read such gruesome depictions of war elsewhere and been able to immerse myself in the writing but for me, I just couldn’t with this. There was one scene with Milo Minderbinder (the names made me want to scream) that made me laugh, I didn’t laugh out loud often as lots of folk have. (And it’s easy to make me laugh! This is just not my humour)
Finally as many have mentioned the depiction of female characters is just appalling. If he was making a point (and I am not convinced he really was) by this, then he succeeded in rendering all of his main male characters including his hero, absolute arseholes in that regard.
I always feel bad when I dislike such well loved novels but in that regard this is way up there with Walden (shudder) and Life of Pi for me.
For me, I just don’t enjoy absurdist and repetitive writing; I was assured that it all comes together in the final third and becomes amazing; well, yeah, I guess I can see that , but by that time having slugged 300 plus pages of complex, constantly trying-to-be-funny-and-clever, absurd wordplay - I just didn’t care that much anymore and the impact of the ending section was lessened for me. I have read such gruesome depictions of war elsewhere and been able to immerse myself in the writing but for me, I just couldn’t with this. There was one scene with Milo Minderbinder (the names made me want to scream) that made me laugh, I didn’t laugh out loud often as lots of folk have. (And it’s easy to make me laugh! This is just not my humour)
Finally as many have mentioned the depiction of female characters is just appalling. If he was making a point (and I am not convinced he really was) by this, then he succeeded in rendering all of his main male characters including his hero, absolute arseholes in that regard.
I always feel bad when I dislike such well loved novels but in that regard this is way up there with Walden (shudder) and Life of Pi for me.
Content Warnings
Graphic: War, Rape, Sexual harassment, Violence, Sexual assault, Sexism, and Death
alterdd's review against another edition
4.75
- 10% lusting about women
- 85% absurd shit happening
- 5% brutal depictions of henious crimes and war
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death, War, Rape, and Injury/Injury detail
Minor: Vomit
yeah_sure's review against another edition
challenging
dark
funny
hopeful
inspiring
reflective
sad
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
Riding the high of finishing this book, it is genius but it is also deceptively LONG and it drags, not in the sense that it's boring but in the sense that it is winding and cumbersome. Finishing it took a great deal of my time and sanity. Not entirely unproblematic either, but if you're in the mood, it is extremely clever, funny and thought provoking
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death, War, and Gore
Moderate: Misogyny, Sexual content, Violence, and Suicide
Minor: Rape, Vomit, and Murder
lizardcha's review against another edition
adventurous
dark
funny
reflective
sad
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: War
kaibigan23's review against another edition
adventurous
funny
sad
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.5
A very funny book about times in war. Yes, war can be so dark but the realities that the character in this book have been felt from my end.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Violence, Sexual harassment, Physical abuse, War, and Gun violence