annemaries_shelves's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Babel was a big project, and Kuang tackled a lot of themes in 542 pages. Her writing style is a little more 'on the nose' and direct when exploring themes and discussing them through dialogue. For this reason, it won't work for every reader, but it worked for me. There was also a lot of foreshadowing and laying of tracks to the resolution and I felt it was well done. It's relatively easy to pick up on but in the grand length and scope of the novel, those hints are easy to lose track of.
On the surface, there's a lot of discussion around language, translation, and the power of words. The dark academia elements shine here, with a lot of classroom discussion around language, studying, and the role of communication between people, cultures, and in power dynamics.
Woven throughout these discussions, and in our main characters' experiences, are the themes of colonialism, power (again), race, gender, and class. Because our main character, Robin, and 2 others in his cohort of 4 are from colonized and non-European countries, their experiences at Oxford are shaped by how others perceive and treat them. With few exceptions, we're always in Robin's POV, so we rarely get the gender element that Letty (a white woman) and Victoire (a Black woman) experience at Oxford.
Having it set in magical 1830s Oxford was smart - it gave Kuang a lot of room to maneuver with respect to the historical events happening - many of which are mirroring today's events and discontent/rising up. Today's events and international relations are a direct result of the actions of 19th century Europe (the British Empire in particular) and it's fascinating in the horrifying kind of way to see those threads' origins in this alternate history.
I do have some minor quibbles. The pacing was a little off at times. The last 100 pages tackled a lot and felt almost rushed in comparison to the pacing of the previous 400+ pages. It may have been intentional to mimic the feeling of revolution, but I think more time and space could've been dedicated to this part. I also really wanted more interludes with other characters. So much of the novel is solely in Robin's head and I feel like some characters' voices could've been heard more.
The character work was great overall though despite the limited POV. I did get a good sense of who Ramy, Victoire, and Letty were and other side characters: Playfair (fuck him), Lovell (fuck him), Sterling Jones (fuck him), and Anthony and Griffin (bless them) in particular. Letty was an infuriating foil to Robin, Ramy, and Victoire - the scene where <i>they</i> have to comfort <i>her</i> after explaining how difficult it is to be Chinese, Brown (and Muslim), and a Black woman respectively in Oxford was so well done.
A slightly more subtle themes was the importance of collective action. The novel demonstrates how oppressors keep people separated by arbitrary divisions of race, gender, class, religion, etc. because it's easier to maintain power and control when there's fighting across oppressed groups and marginalized identities. Propaganda and misinformation was also used effectively - particularly in the Canton scenes and last 100 pages.
Reading Babel right now with the genocide happening in Palestine perpetrated by the Israeli government was... impactful to say the least. Babel also reinforced how important action is because discussing theories in our ivories towers does very little to fix systemic issues and make change. Even if we all have a small part, together change is possible with different avenues available to us.
Overall, if these themes or genres appeal at all, I highly recommend reading this book. Even better if you can read alongside someone else, because you WILL want to discuss events along the way. I hope at this point in the 2020s many of the themes of conversations within the book around power, colonialism, race, class, etc. will be familiar to readers (with or without similar lived experiences to the characters). But if not, I think it'll be an important read to help learn, contextualize, and personalize the lived experiences of many folks and the larger concepts discussed within.
<b>Okay now I'm going to get more into spoilers so consider yourself warned!!</b>
The first introduction to Griffin was intriguing and mysterious. This man who looked exactly like Robin had me thinking doppelganger or time travel. It turns out they're half-brothers through their father. Griffin exemplifies the 'violence is the only answer to colonialism' perspective (contrasting Anthony's pacifist role and Robin's 'let's fall in with the oppressors to survive role initially'). Robin's experiences were nicely contrasted with his brother's to show that nature vs. nurture element. Generally their dynamic and conversations were great and I loved seeing how Robin grew to share Griffin's perspective on violence based off his own experiences (radicalization through grief essentially). Griffin definitely deserves his own story one day, although I'm happy with Babel to be a standalone.
I found the last part of the book really focuses on what grief and violence does to a person. How it can shield or desensitize you to the human cost of necessary violence. Even if the hard choices are 'right', it's easy to lose that sense of morality/feeling pursuing the means to the end. The final conversation between Professor Chakraborty and Robin was heartfelt and tragic - especially learning what happens afterwards.
While I sobbed through a lot of deaths (except Lovell and Jones because fuck them), the fact that Victoire ultimately survived was wonderful. So many characters were willing to die (which can be important to the cause) but her desire to live, survive, and thrive was just as important. I wish we had more of her POV because she was such a pillar of strength to Robin by the end and her experiences at Oxford with Letty had gone unnoticed by Robin and thus the readers to a certain degree.
Finally, the unfulfilled potential of Ramy and Robin's relationship destroyed me. From the moment they were on page together, I sensed the strong queer subtext of their friendship. But alas, nothing is ever truly spoken or acknowledged; and it's only hinted at by the depth of Robin's grief at Ramy's murder. So fuck Letty too.
I also wanted dearly to know Robin's birth name and we never do find out... and maybe that's the point.
Graphic: Emotional abuse, Violence, Blood, Murder, Classism, Colonisation, Gun violence, Death, Grief, Injury/Injury detail, Racism, Racial slurs, Torture, and Xenophobia
Moderate: Sexism and Misogyny
Minor: Islamophobia, Child abuse, and Slavery
tbd24's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.75
Spoiler
Rami and Robin were only ever subtext, I would have been a bit more satisfied if they had a proper conversation about it, even once, especially since they were gonna die in the end anyway so what did the author have to lose. I feel like the reason it was never explicit is because the author didn’t know how to write a conversation like that and still keep the historical realism, though others have done this well. idk, it just disappointed meGraphic: Cultural appropriation, Xenophobia, Terminal illness, Murder, Domestic abuse, Torture, Blood, Bullying, Child abuse, Classism, Colonisation, Confinement, Death, Death of parent, Suicide, Suicidal thoughts, Violence, Religious bigotry, Racism, Racial slurs, Physical abuse, Misogyny, Injury/Injury detail, Gun violence, Grief, Emotional abuse, and Gore
Moderate: Trafficking, Addiction, Islamophobia, Ableism, Toxic friendship, War, Slavery, and Sexism
jelliestars's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
2.0
Graphic: Xenophobia, Violence, Toxic friendship, Suicide, Racism, Cultural appropriation, Death, Blood, Death of parent, Torture, Colonisation, Gun violence, Grief, Suicidal thoughts, Sexism, Murder, and Misogyny
Moderate: Gore, Torture, Child abuse, Alcohol, Domestic abuse, Drug use, Hate crime, Physical abuse, Racial slurs, Slavery, Injury/Injury detail, Alcoholism, Classism, Drug abuse, Sexual harassment, Terminal illness, War, and Addiction
Minor: Child death, Excrement, Fire/Fire injury, Religious bigotry, Kidnapping, Medical content, Pandemic/Epidemic, Trafficking, Car accident, Genocide, Infidelity, Islamophobia, Vomit, Confinement, Cursing, Forced institutionalization, Alcoholism, and Panic attacks/disorders
setaggu's review
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Graphic: Physical abuse, Classism, Colonisation, Death, Death of parent, Racial slurs, Misogyny, Injury/Injury detail, Murder, Sexism, Gaslighting, Grief, Islamophobia, Racism, Child abuse, Emotional abuse, and Medical content
Moderate: Suicidal thoughts, Violence, Police brutality, Suicide attempt, and Panic attacks/disorders
Minor: Vomit and Sexual harassment
solarel's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? N/A
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
2.5
Conceptually the book discussed important themes with no subtlety, but there was nothing there to keep attention to. A bit disappointing.
Graphic: Emotional abuse, Slavery, Suicidal thoughts, Violence, Suicide, Suicide attempt, Torture, War, Death of parent, Classism, Colonisation, Cultural appropriation, Murder, Racial slurs, Racism, Xenophobia, Alcohol, Child abuse, Death, Drug use, Misogyny, Physical abuse, Hate crime, Islamophobia, Police brutality, Self harm, Sexual harassment, Trafficking, Gaslighting, Grief, Gun violence, and Domestic abuse
fizzieee's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.5
Graphic: Drug use, Death of parent, Emotional abuse, Suicide, Toxic friendship, Violence, Gun violence, Islamophobia, Vomit, War, Racism, Sexism, Slavery, Suicidal thoughts, Torture, Xenophobia, Colonisation, Racial slurs, Blood, Child abuse, Classism, Death, and Murder
Minor: Bullying, Alcohol, and Injury/Injury detail
aisclaradm's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Graphic: Colonisation, Murder, Toxic friendship, Racism, Violence, Child abuse, Misogyny, Physical abuse, Racial slurs, Classism, Death, Death of parent, Grief, Emotional abuse, Sexism, Suicidal thoughts, Suicide, and Torture
Moderate: Drug abuse, Confinement, Cultural appropriation, Injury/Injury detail, Islamophobia, Police brutality, Sexual harassment, Slavery, Trafficking, War, Drug use, and Religious bigotry
Minor: Cultural appropriation and Alcohol
rnbhargava's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Graphic: Panic attacks/disorders, Police brutality, Sexism, Sexual assault, Sexual harassment, Slavery, Xenophobia, Car accident, Cursing, Drug abuse, Fire/Fire injury, Grief, Alcoholism, Blood, Domestic abuse, Toxic relationship, Emotional abuse, Islamophobia, Medical trauma, Trafficking, Violence, Body shaming, Cultural appropriation, Stalking, War, Classism, Death of parent, Drug use, Confinement, Death, Colonisation, Gaslighting, Gore, Injury/Injury detail, Kidnapping, Misogyny, Murder, Racial slurs, Religious bigotry, Rape, Body horror, Bullying, Child death, Gun violence, Hate crime, Racism, Suicidal thoughts, and Toxic friendship
All the themes said to be triggers are present, particularly the race and religion ones. There’s a scene where it appears that female characters could hypothetically be assaulted. The racism and discrimination on religion angles are throughout the book. The major theme of the book is reconciling existing within educational institutions in the west while the same people you’re learning from are harming your original homelands, whether you remember them or not, and the moral plus political repercussions of that.arayo's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.75
Graphic: Racism, Torture, Murder, Xenophobia, Colonisation, and Violence
Moderate: Misogyny, Suicide, Grief, Classism, Gun violence, and Slavery
Minor: Death of parent, Drug use, Child abuse, Sexual harassment, Islamophobia, and Injury/Injury detail
goose's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.5
Graphic: Alcoholism, Body horror, Colonisation, Death, Gore, Murder, Racial slurs, Racism, Suicidal thoughts, Child death, Suicide, Violence, and Torture
Moderate: Classism, Sexism, and Sexual harassment
Minor: Physical abuse, War, Islamophobia, Gun violence, Slavery, and Vomit
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