imcalledcasey's review against another edition
adventurous
emotional
inspiring
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.5
nicole_flnr's review against another edition
5.0
It's 1:15 in the morning, I have to get up at 6:00 and I know for sure that the bookhangover I will have might be huge. "Review" to come.
________
Ok, where do I start,
first things first, I wasn't really bumped for this book. I heard that the beginning was boring, that it wasn't as good as the first and the second book and so on. But let me tell you this, before you read any further: That book is freaking amazing.
I started this series like one year ago and finished the second one in August 2015. I bought IN THE AFTERLIGHT in October or November and the plottwist of the second book in the beginning was so freaking surprising, I just needed the third.
But I didn't read it. I tried to in November.
AND HOLY MOLY SORRY I AM WATCHING 11.22.63 WHILE I READ THIS AND THIS SHIT IS AMAZING. OK SORRY.
As I said I tried to read it in November and I just couldn't do it. It was like I wasn't emotionally ready, so I didn't force me through this book and it probably was the best decision ever.
Because when I started this book AGAIN two days ago it just felt right. It was flying through the pages
Let me start with the characters:
I liked the characters, I really did. They had depth, they were intriguing, I was totally feeling them and that is a really good thing.
Ruby was one of the characters I am not sure if I totally liked her. I understood her, I could identify myself with her but sometimes I wanted to strangle her so badly. The decisions she made were understandable, they were likable and I really liked her powers and how Bracken described them.
Liam, on the other hand, didn't really get a lot of attention in this book. The relationship with Ruby didn't move forwards or backwards it wasn't moving on any point and this was kinda sad. There still was his trusting issues, which were understandable but he was the only character were the depth was a bit missing.
And then, there was my baby. Cole. Freaking, adorable, lovable, Cole. I loved him and then there were moments when I just loved him more than Liam or wanted Ruby to end up with him than Liam. But you know, freaking Alex bracken and her freaking plottwists, but whatever. I understood what he was going through, why he was doing the things he did and I think he and Ruby just fitted like a puzzle.
The next thing I loved was the plot. As I said earlier some people pointed out that the first 200 pages were slow paged or even boring, but I didn't feel it that way. I thought that what happened in this very part was necessary for the story, for the character development and for the reader to feel/identify with the characters.
I admit, the beginning was slowER paged than the rest or even the ending of the book, because that was fucking amazing. It was like the author kept the really amazing and surprising plottwists for the ending of the book. I was telling myself one thing when I was at page 395: "I will finish this chapter and then I will go to bed."
BUT LET ME TELL YOU ONE THING: I didn't go to bed.
So I said "One more chapter."
AND THEN I IT WAS FREAKING 1:15 AND I FINISHED THE WHOLE BOOK.
It was beyond amazing it was... I am still speechless. Even the ending was killing it and even though there is the one thing that is still bothering me
To everyone who is struggling with this book keep going. It is totally worth it.
Applause to Alexandra Bracken for this extraordinary ending of the book and the only dystopian book I know with a (nearly) perfect and satisfying ending.
________
Ok, where do I start,
first things first, I wasn't really bumped for this book. I heard that the beginning was boring, that it wasn't as good as the first and the second book and so on. But let me tell you this, before you read any further: That book is freaking amazing.
I started this series like one year ago and finished the second one in August 2015. I bought IN THE AFTERLIGHT in October or November and the plottwist of the second book in the beginning was so freaking surprising, I just needed the third.
But I didn't read it. I tried to in November.
AND HOLY MOLY SORRY I AM WATCHING 11.22.63 WHILE I READ THIS AND THIS SHIT IS AMAZING. OK SORRY.
As I said I tried to read it in November and I just couldn't do it. It was like I wasn't emotionally ready, so I didn't force me through this book and it probably was the best decision ever.
Because when I started this book AGAIN two days ago it just felt right. It was flying through the pages
Let me start with the characters:
I liked the characters, I really did. They had depth, they were intriguing, I was totally feeling them and that is a really good thing.
Ruby was one of the characters I am not sure if I totally liked her. I understood her, I could identify myself with her but sometimes I wanted to strangle her so badly. The decisions she made were understandable, they were likable and I really liked her powers and how Bracken described them.
Liam, on the other hand, didn't really get a lot of attention in this book. The relationship with Ruby didn't move forwards or backwards it wasn't moving on any point and this was kinda sad. There still was his trusting issues, which were understandable but he was the only character were the depth was a bit missing.
And then, there was my baby. Cole. Freaking, adorable, lovable, Cole. I loved him and then there were moments when I just loved him more than Liam or wanted Ruby to end up with him than Liam. But you know, freaking Alex bracken and her freaking plottwists, but whatever. I understood what he was going through, why he was doing the things he did and I think he and Ruby just fitted like a puzzle.
The next thing I loved was the plot. As I said earlier some people pointed out that the first 200 pages were slow paged or even boring, but I didn't feel it that way. I thought that what happened in this very part was necessary for the story, for the character development and for the reader to feel/identify with the characters.
I admit, the beginning was slowER paged than the rest or even the ending of the book, because that was fucking amazing. It was like the author kept the really amazing and surprising plottwists for the ending of the book. I was telling myself one thing when I was at page 395: "I will finish this chapter and then I will go to bed."
BUT LET ME TELL YOU ONE THING: I didn't go to bed.
So I said "One more chapter."
AND THEN I IT WAS FREAKING 1:15 AND I FINISHED THE WHOLE BOOK.
It was beyond amazing it was... I am still speechless. Even the ending was killing it and even though there is the one thing that is still bothering me
Spoiler
WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED WITH COLE????To everyone who is struggling with this book keep going. It is totally worth it.
Applause to Alexandra Bracken for this extraordinary ending of the book and the only dystopian book I know with a (nearly) perfect and satisfying ending.
mal22's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
emotional
funny
mysterious
reflective
sad
tense
medium-paced
5.0
janewan's review against another edition
5.0
Such a nice ending!! I cried a lot in the last few pages, some were tears of sadness others tears of happiness. Really enjoyed the series:)
albon's review against another edition
2.0
2014 review:
The ending was really good, I changed my mind, the end wasn't very good either. The book was a mess where everything happened "off-stage", and the plot didn't progress at all in the middle part.
[Cole died off-page for no reason what so ever. I wouldn't have minded if he died in a fight or something where we saw it happen. Not some "Stewart is dead" plot where Ruby saw who it was at once. And then when Ruby erased Clancy's memories, what even was that? Clancy had every right to be mad and angry, he was proven right in many ways. Ruby was an advocate for giving people choices and not taking away their right to decide for themselves, but that's just what she took away with Clancy. Another problem was the Nico character, I have never seen a character more all over the place. He could've been great, but it's like Alexandra Bracken had a good idea for a character and really wanted to use hi, but she just didn't know what to do with him. (hide spoiler)]
The ending was really good, I changed my mind, the end wasn't very good either. The book was a mess where everything happened "off-stage", and the plot didn't progress at all in the middle part.
[Cole died off-page for no reason what so ever. I wouldn't have minded if he died in a fight or something where we saw it happen. Not some "Stewart is dead" plot where Ruby saw who it was at once. And then when Ruby erased Clancy's memories, what even was that? Clancy had every right to be mad and angry, he was proven right in many ways. Ruby was an advocate for giving people choices and not taking away their right to decide for themselves, but that's just what she took away with Clancy. Another problem was the Nico character, I have never seen a character more all over the place. He could've been great, but it's like Alexandra Bracken had a good idea for a character and really wanted to use hi, but she just didn't know what to do with him. (hide spoiler)]
READING PROGRESS
October 20, 2013 – Shelved as: to-read
October 20, 2013 – Shelved
October 30, 2014 – Started Reading
October 31, 2014 – 20.0%
November 1, 2014 – 27.0% "Chapter 7 was a really, really great chapter, and it made me cry a little. Other than that, not much has been happening so far. I like character development, so I don't mind a lot of talking, but I need some plot progression soon."
November 6, 2014 – 40.0% "Am I really supposed to care about Cate?"
November 7, 2014 – 58.0% "I think this is the first action we've had so far in the book. Good, because I was almost falling asleep."
November 9, 2014 – 62.0% "Forget Ruby and Liam, Chubs and Vida are clearly the best characters in this book."
November 9, 2014 – 72.0%
November 11, 2014 – 80.0% "This Nico is literally just a less cool version of Nico di Angelo."
November 12, 2014 – 92.0%
November 12, 2014 – 95.0% "Now I just want Ruby reunited with her parents! And I want a happy ending to Sam and Lucas' story, but I don't think I'm getting that."
November 12, 2014 – Shelved as: completed-series
November 12, 2014 – Finished Reading
November 13, 2014 – Shelved as: read-in-2014
November 13, 2014 – Shelved as: read-in-english
October 1, 2015 – Shelved as: lgbt-characters
April 8, 2018 – Shelved as: the-worst
February 4, 2020 – Shelved as: dystopia
rawanomer21's review against another edition
5.0
Absolutely loved it.....
At the very beginning till the very end it is just awesome ✨✨✨✨
I just wish that cole didn't die, he was one of my favourite characters
And jude.....
Loved vida and chubs
And well liam and ruby are just perfect, even though they break up but the go back together soon enough but unfortunately cole died and clancy ruined everything so they get parted once again, and later reunited, i just loved it.
Zu finally spoke!!!!!!!!
And the finale is just perfect .
At the very beginning till the very end it is just awesome ✨✨✨✨
I just wish that cole didn't die, he was one of my favourite characters
And jude.....
Loved vida and chubs
And well liam and ruby are just perfect, even though they break up but the go back together soon enough but unfortunately cole died and clancy ruined everything so they get parted once again, and later reunited, i just loved it.
Zu finally spoke!!!!!!!!
And the finale is just perfect .
elisabeths_reads's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
hopeful
mysterious
reflective
sad
medium-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
fatimareadsbooks's review against another edition
5.0
I read this book 2 months ago. The reason I didn’t immediately review it is because I was just too emotional after the trilogy ended. Although I had some issues with the first book, the second and third book did not disappoint—despite many people’s opinion that the third book wasn’t up to standards. Maybe it’s the fact that I marathoned the trilogy whereas most of the others had to wait a year for the final book. It happened to me before; reading the books in a series and loving them, waiting one or more years for the concluding book to be released, being carried away by my very high expectations, then feeling extremely let down with the last book. That doesn’t happen to every series or trilogy, but it’s just a theory and—oh gosh, I just realized I was rambling.
Back to the book review. You see, it was really hard letting go of the characters. In the Afterlight gave me a book hangover.
book hang•o•ver
/bo͝ok ˈhaNGˌōvər/
noun
1. When you’ve finished a book and you suddenly return to the real world, but the real world feels incomplete or surreal because you’re still living in the world of the book.
2. The inability to function at work/school because you were up all night binge-reading.
“I have a really bad book hangover, I could barely concentrate at school.”
I didn’t even notice I was getting attached to Ruby and Cole and Liam and Vida. So when the book ended, I was in a state of denial for a whole week.
Let’s discuss the main elements of the book:
1. Ruby. Oh god, Ruby’s level of kickass-ness is reaching new levels! And I know I’ve said this in my previous review, but I love the whole ‘don’t-bullshit-me-I’m-gonna-kick-your-ass’ vibe she’s got going on. Only rarely in my life has a book actually made me feel every emotion the main character is feeling. When Ruby broke down, I broke down. When Ruby was excited, I was excited. When Ruby was furious, I was furious. You get what I’m saying, right?
2. Characters. The characters in this book have gone through a massive character development arc. It was the best character development arc in the history of best character development arcs. I loved seeing all the relationships develop, although Ruby and Liam’s did get very frustrating at times. My favourite characters are Cole and Vida, solely because of the amount of times they made me laugh out loud. Also, Chubs & Vida’s banter is so adorable and hilarious. If you’ve read the book, you can understand why I can’t let go of the characters because, honestly, they’re the best characters I’ve read about in a book.
3. Plot. I felt like the book kinda dragged on in the beginning due to the fact that they mostly stayed in the same places for long periods of time. However, the ending totally made up for it. I was left on my bed just staring at the ceiling with tears running down my eyes. I’m satisfied because all my questions were answered and the author did a pretty good job of wrapping everything up. There were still a few loose ends that I want to talk about, but unfortunately I can’t because it’s a major spoiler. All in all, the plot of this book was very solid and actually had a purpose. It really left me emotionally drained.
As a conclusion, I’d like to say (or type) that this book was a very stressful and emotional roller coaster. Alexandra did a good job of wrapping everything up and answering most of my questions. This book made me cry, laugh, and punch things in anger. I’ve stayed up late on many school nights to finish the trilogy. It’s definitely one my favourites, so I say you go out right now and buy it! I’d recommend it to anyone who’s read (and loved) other Alexandra Bracken books or anyone who enjoys dystopian YA.
Back to the book review. You see, it was really hard letting go of the characters. In the Afterlight gave me a book hangover.
book hang•o•ver
/bo͝ok ˈhaNGˌōvər/
noun
1. When you’ve finished a book and you suddenly return to the real world, but the real world feels incomplete or surreal because you’re still living in the world of the book.
2. The inability to function at work/school because you were up all night binge-reading.
“I have a really bad book hangover, I could barely concentrate at school.”
I didn’t even notice I was getting attached to Ruby and Cole and Liam and Vida. So when the book ended, I was in a state of denial for a whole week.
Let’s discuss the main elements of the book:
1. Ruby. Oh god, Ruby’s level of kickass-ness is reaching new levels! And I know I’ve said this in my previous review, but I love the whole ‘don’t-bullshit-me-I’m-gonna-kick-your-ass’ vibe she’s got going on. Only rarely in my life has a book actually made me feel every emotion the main character is feeling. When Ruby broke down, I broke down. When Ruby was excited, I was excited. When Ruby was furious, I was furious. You get what I’m saying, right?
2. Characters. The characters in this book have gone through a massive character development arc. It was the best character development arc in the history of best character development arcs. I loved seeing all the relationships develop, although Ruby and Liam’s did get very frustrating at times. My favourite characters are Cole and Vida, solely because of the amount of times they made me laugh out loud. Also, Chubs & Vida’s banter is so adorable and hilarious. If you’ve read the book, you can understand why I can’t let go of the characters because, honestly, they’re the best characters I’ve read about in a book.
3. Plot. I felt like the book kinda dragged on in the beginning due to the fact that they mostly stayed in the same places for long periods of time. However, the ending totally made up for it. I was left on my bed just staring at the ceiling with tears running down my eyes. I’m satisfied because all my questions were answered and the author did a pretty good job of wrapping everything up. There were still a few loose ends that I want to talk about, but unfortunately I can’t because it’s a major spoiler. All in all, the plot of this book was very solid and actually had a purpose. It really left me emotionally drained.
As a conclusion, I’d like to say (or type) that this book was a very stressful and emotional roller coaster. Alexandra did a good job of wrapping everything up and answering most of my questions. This book made me cry, laugh, and punch things in anger. I’ve stayed up late on many school nights to finish the trilogy. It’s definitely one my favourites, so I say you go out right now and buy it! I’d recommend it to anyone who’s read (and loved) other Alexandra Bracken books or anyone who enjoys dystopian YA.
mleepalmgren's review against another edition
5.0
such a good ending to my favorite series. tears were shed.
theoriginalbookdragon's review against another edition
5.0
And finally, Ruby’s story has come to a close.
Not that I think that’s a good thing; I really enjoyed going on adventures with the Black Betty team—yes, including Vida (although, as Ruby’s grandmother so graciously put it, she really could give a sailor a heart attack). Even though their struggles with the camps and overall oppression from the adults of America has come to an “end” (heed the quotation marks), I’m really skeptical about this new interim government thing that’s supposed to be “the next democracy” and everything; let’s be real, though: it’s Alexandra Bracken. Nothing about this can be legitimate, at least not for long.
The story itself: not what I was expecting. I don’t know what I thought was going to happen, but it definitely wasn’t that. Not unlike Never Fade, the harrowing situations Ruby was put in, not to mention the ones she put herself in, were. . .I don’t know. Confusing? Frustrating? Unneeded? Understandable? I think it’s fair to say all of the above. Ruby, for a lot of the story, felt as though she owed her life to the kids who died, whether by the hands of skip tracers, PSFs, in the camps, etcetera—when that’s really not the case. Although these feelings have helped her and the others do a lot of good for Psi everywhere, I definitely think that she made some questionable decisions that would have saved her a lot of pain and suffering otherwise. For example, it’s a well-known fact that Ruby loves Liam and Liam loves Ruby—there’s no changing that; it’s set in stone. However, the two have a ruthless fight about halfway through the book, and although it’s a painful scene to revisit, it’s the most valid example of my point. If Ruby hadn’t felt as though she had to give up the one thing—the one thing—that she truly wanted and loved in life (Liam), then this whole argument, along with many other complicated situations and mixed up feelings, could have been avoided altogether.
Moving on, I have to bring up the subject of Cole. Cole’s relationship with Ruby kind of irked me from the start, seeing as—well, seeing as Liam. Also, the bond kind of seemed out of nowhere. I don’t know, maybe I missed something, but to me their relationship was built on only two major things: the first being that Cole saved Ruby’s life at the end of Never Fade; and the second being that they both have had to live through some pretty tough things, including being classified (publicly or privately) as the most dangerous “kinds” of their “people.” These two reasons can justifiably create a special bond between two people; however, it seemed to me as though those were the only reasons that they ever spent time together, planning things like the hit on Thurmond or Oasis, or training together in the gym—besides, you know, Liam.
Okay, before I get onto another subject, can we please just talk about Clancy for a minute? I hated the way he used Ruby—especially because it was so unexpected. We see Ruby have random moments of memory loss, including weird dreams and sleepwalking spells, which seem just kind of like an out-of-nowhere thing that was thrown in to make Ruby’s like seem even more off-kilter. But manipulating her to help him escape? Unforgivable. Unexpected. Unjustifiable. But I guess that’s just classic Clancy Gray for you.
The other relationship I wanted to mention was Vida and Chubs’. Honestly, I saw that one coming; what I didn’t see, though, was Zu’s shining moment. I mean, wow! That girl can really pull some sass when she wants to! :) I especially liked the way her growing relationship with Vida was displayed, not only because it’s super sweet, but also because it felt very out of the ordinary; like, she loves Ruby, but Vi’s only going to tell Zu the truth, whether she wants to hear it or not (not that Ruby would lie without good reason—it’s just the personality difference). I also have to bring up the reactions to her interview, specifically the boys’. Chubs really showed a different side of himself; giving a hug to the girl really was outside of his usual personality. I mean, obviously he loves Zu, no doubt. It’s just, he usually does that awkward pat-on-the-head thing, not a full-on hug. That was really refreshing. But Liam, oh, Liam! I really liked the way Bracken described his response:
“Liam jumped as if she’d shot him in the chest, his face pale with shock."
Amazing! Even though it’s just one sentence, the simile “as if she’d shot him in the chest” really created a clear picture in my mind. Small achievement, but I thought I’d mention it :).
The last thing I want to bring up is the ending. I loved how Bracken ended the book with Jude’s take on life (“And the open road rolled out in front of us.”). I also liked how the last scene we see of the gang before fast-forwarding into The Darkest Legacy’s world is of them in the car, all together one last time, before everything starts to go downhill. It was very heartwarming, especially because the chemistry between the five was unspoiled, untainted by the harshness that comes with trying to pull Bracken’s dystopian America out of the utter disaster that IAAN and Agent Ambrosia had made it. It filled my heart, cutting through the sadness and filling it to the brim.
These three books honestly are amazing. Alexandra Bracken wields an unbeatable greatness in her writing, one that can only be matched by few. Liam, Chubs, Ruby, Zu, Vida, and all her other characters that went on these adventures were so well developed, pulling me into their stories, whether I liked it or not. This series has left its mark on me, permanent and here to stay. I whole-heartedly enjoyed riding the wild rollercoaster that is The Darkest Minds and will for years to come.
Not that I think that’s a good thing; I really enjoyed going on adventures with the Black Betty team—yes, including Vida (although, as Ruby’s grandmother so graciously put it, she really could give a sailor a heart attack). Even though their struggles with the camps and overall oppression from the adults of America has come to an “end” (heed the quotation marks), I’m really skeptical about this new interim government thing that’s supposed to be “the next democracy” and everything; let’s be real, though: it’s Alexandra Bracken. Nothing about this can be legitimate, at least not for long.
The story itself: not what I was expecting. I don’t know what I thought was going to happen, but it definitely wasn’t that. Not unlike Never Fade, the harrowing situations Ruby was put in, not to mention the ones she put herself in, were. . .I don’t know. Confusing? Frustrating? Unneeded? Understandable? I think it’s fair to say all of the above. Ruby, for a lot of the story, felt as though she owed her life to the kids who died, whether by the hands of skip tracers, PSFs, in the camps, etcetera—when that’s really not the case. Although these feelings have helped her and the others do a lot of good for Psi everywhere, I definitely think that she made some questionable decisions that would have saved her a lot of pain and suffering otherwise. For example, it’s a well-known fact that Ruby loves Liam and Liam loves Ruby—there’s no changing that; it’s set in stone. However, the two have a ruthless fight about halfway through the book, and although it’s a painful scene to revisit, it’s the most valid example of my point. If Ruby hadn’t felt as though she had to give up the one thing—the one thing—that she truly wanted and loved in life (Liam), then this whole argument, along with many other complicated situations and mixed up feelings, could have been avoided altogether.
Moving on, I have to bring up the subject of Cole. Cole’s relationship with Ruby kind of irked me from the start, seeing as—well, seeing as Liam. Also, the bond kind of seemed out of nowhere. I don’t know, maybe I missed something, but to me their relationship was built on only two major things: the first being that Cole saved Ruby’s life at the end of Never Fade; and the second being that they both have had to live through some pretty tough things, including being classified (publicly or privately) as the most dangerous “kinds” of their “people.” These two reasons can justifiably create a special bond between two people; however, it seemed to me as though those were the only reasons that they ever spent time together, planning things like the hit on Thurmond or Oasis, or training together in the gym—besides, you know, Liam.
Okay, before I get onto another subject, can we please just talk about Clancy for a minute? I hated the way he used Ruby—especially because it was so unexpected. We see Ruby have random moments of memory loss, including weird dreams and sleepwalking spells, which seem just kind of like an out-of-nowhere thing that was thrown in to make Ruby’s like seem even more off-kilter. But manipulating her to help him escape? Unforgivable. Unexpected. Unjustifiable. But I guess that’s just classic Clancy Gray for you.
The other relationship I wanted to mention was Vida and Chubs’. Honestly, I saw that one coming; what I didn’t see, though, was Zu’s shining moment. I mean, wow! That girl can really pull some sass when she wants to! :) I especially liked the way her growing relationship with Vida was displayed, not only because it’s super sweet, but also because it felt very out of the ordinary; like, she loves Ruby, but Vi’s only going to tell Zu the truth, whether she wants to hear it or not (not that Ruby would lie without good reason—it’s just the personality difference). I also have to bring up the reactions to her interview, specifically the boys’. Chubs really showed a different side of himself; giving a hug to the girl really was outside of his usual personality. I mean, obviously he loves Zu, no doubt. It’s just, he usually does that awkward pat-on-the-head thing, not a full-on hug. That was really refreshing. But Liam, oh, Liam! I really liked the way Bracken described his response:
“Liam jumped as if she’d shot him in the chest, his face pale with shock."
Amazing! Even though it’s just one sentence, the simile “as if she’d shot him in the chest” really created a clear picture in my mind. Small achievement, but I thought I’d mention it :).
The last thing I want to bring up is the ending. I loved how Bracken ended the book with Jude’s take on life (“And the open road rolled out in front of us.”). I also liked how the last scene we see of the gang before fast-forwarding into The Darkest Legacy’s world is of them in the car, all together one last time, before everything starts to go downhill. It was very heartwarming, especially because the chemistry between the five was unspoiled, untainted by the harshness that comes with trying to pull Bracken’s dystopian America out of the utter disaster that IAAN and Agent Ambrosia had made it. It filled my heart, cutting through the sadness and filling it to the brim.
These three books honestly are amazing. Alexandra Bracken wields an unbeatable greatness in her writing, one that can only be matched by few. Liam, Chubs, Ruby, Zu, Vida, and all her other characters that went on these adventures were so well developed, pulling me into their stories, whether I liked it or not. This series has left its mark on me, permanent and here to stay. I whole-heartedly enjoyed riding the wild rollercoaster that is The Darkest Minds and will for years to come.