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fraeyalise's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
emotional
funny
hopeful
informative
inspiring
lighthearted
mysterious
reflective
relaxing
sad
tense
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
What a lovely, lovely story that exists in our world with us, and what a pleasure it is to exist at the same time.
This book will stay with me for a long time. It was very detailed and long winded, but the details could not be cut without substantially changing the story and making it worse.
Everything builds so slowly, it moves like a thunderstorm.
The ending made me cry, all my feelings are very complicated about it, but I am happy with the ending and how everything wrapped up.
I'm so grateful that we, the Readers, got to see the entire story with all the parts.
I was a bit intimidated by this book because of the length, but I am so glad I found the courage to begin it. What a world. What a story.
This book will stay with me for a long time. It was very detailed and long winded, but the details could not be cut without substantially changing the story and making it worse.
Everything builds so slowly, it moves like a thunderstorm.
The ending made me cry, all my feelings are very complicated about it, but I am happy with the ending and how everything wrapped up.
I'm so grateful that we, the Readers, got to see the entire story with all the parts.
I was a bit intimidated by this book because of the length, but I am so glad I found the courage to begin it. What a world. What a story.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Kidnapping and Classism
Moderate: Misogyny, Racism, Forced institutionalization, and Grief
Minor: Animal death, Child death, Death, Gore, and War
In a book set in the 1800s England during the Napoleonic Wars with one of the main characters being a Fairy with no regard for human life, there is a fair amount of horrors that come with it. Also in a book with over 1000 pages, there's no way to have a story without some potentially triggering content. I will say Clarke does an excellent job of talking about sensitive topics, and mentions of some of the more horrible things, while blunt on purpose, are thankfully brief.macliffe's review against another edition
funny
lighthearted
mysterious
relaxing
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.0
The 3 stars I gave this book are purely because Susanna Clark is a genius. I still can barely believe this book was written in The 21st Century. It perfectly captures the 19th or early 20th century British literary style, down to spellings and slang. The footnotes made the world feel so real, like a lost piece of history, grounded in reality yet fantastical. It could have been a perfect book.
The fatal flaw of this book is simply its length. If it had been about 300 pages like Piranesi, it would have been flawless. But 800+ pages of no plot, or at most a vague and confusing plot, does not work, at least for me. This book could have easily been condensed to half its size, and I have no clue why it’s so long and slow. I think she learned from this book because Piranesi is the perfect length while still maintaining the fantastical magic, worldbuilding, and plotless mystery that she does so well.
The fatal flaw of this book is simply its length. If it had been about 300 pages like Piranesi, it would have been flawless. But 800+ pages of no plot, or at most a vague and confusing plot, does not work, at least for me. This book could have easily been condensed to half its size, and I have no clue why it’s so long and slow. I think she learned from this book because Piranesi is the perfect length while still maintaining the fantastical magic, worldbuilding, and plotless mystery that she does so well.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Kidnapping
Moderate: Confinement, Death, and Racism
Minor: Antisemitism
spreadabook's review against another edition
emotional
funny
mysterious
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
I got through a thousand and six pages for this bloody thing to make me cry on the last page. I don't think I've enjoyed a book this much in years.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death and War
Moderate: Kidnapping
Minor: Rape
thecriticalreader's review against another edition
mysterious
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
0.5
Context:
I borrowed Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell by Susanna Clark from my library through the Libby App. It is the second book by Clark that I have read; I read Piranesi in 2023 and gave it 4 stars.
I borrowed Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell by Susanna Clark from my library through the Libby App. It is the second book by Clark that I have read; I read Piranesi in 2023 and gave it 4 stars.
Review:
On paper, I should have loved Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell. I love historical fantasy, I love slow-paced nineteenth-century literature, and I love books that immerse you in a historical setting. I am the sort of person who would love nothing more to attend a History of Magic class taught by Professor Binns. Unfortunately, Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell is a huge miss for me.
Before I talk about what I don’t like, I want to talk about the positives. I am immensely impressed by Clark’s ability to mimic the nineteenth-century prose style, something that many authors attempt but few do successfully. The writing is atmospheric, witty, and occasionally beautiful. Additionally, it is clear that Clark knows an enormous amount about early-nineteenth-century history and English folklore, and her knowledge pervades every aspect of this book. In this sense, Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell is an admirable and unique triumph of literature.
Unfortunately for me, I despised the book’s characters and plot. And when you’re reading a novel of this size, it helps very much to like at least one of these things. Every character, except for two or three side characters, is selfish, petty, and arrogant. (Oh, and Mr. Norrell is canonically against the emancipation of Jews and Catholics, so that’s great /s). It can be entertaining to read about terrible people about if they are written with intention and care, but they are not. Are they supposed to be insufferable? Why do they act the way they do? Why should we care about them and what they do? I have no answers. Furthermore, there is little to no character development throughout this enormous book. The two or three characters that aren’t insufferable receive little-to-no screentime, so to speak, and have little agency. It appears that Clark tries to make a point about racism, slavery, and sexism, but her flat treatment of the female characters and the one black character rubbed me the wrong way.
My problem with the plot is partly a matter of taste because this book largely revolves around English fairies and the Otherworld. I’m someone who dislikes fairytales and fairies because they strike me as meanspirited and nonsensical (which funnily enough describes the characters in this book), so this element of the book did not work for me as a result. In general, however, this book DID NOT NEED TO BE 800-1,000 pages (depending on the edition) long! It could have easily been 200-300 pages. The plot of this book is discursive, muddled, and nonsensical. I actually DNF’d the book at the 50% mark but decided to push through in case it got better. As miserable as it was, I am glad that I read the ending, which I think wraps things up as well as could be expected and gave me a little bit more perspective about how the author wants us to view the main characters.
The Run-Down:
You might like Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell if . . .
· You love fairy tales, historical fantasy, and nineteenth-century history/literature
· You want to read about deeply flawed main characters
· You don’t mind reading pages upon pages of material that doesn’t really pertain to the main plot
· You like books that explore the darker side of magic
You might not like Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell if . . .
· You like well-written characters that you can root for
· You don’t want a read an 800-1000-page book that could have easily been 250 pages
A Similar Book:
A Declaration of the Rights of Magicians by H.G. Parry (I rated it 4 stars).
Similarities:
· Historical fantasy epic that reimagines major European historical events with magic
· Very slow-paced, well-researched, and historically dense
· Some real-world historical characters
Differences:
· A Declaration of the Rights of Magicians focuses on late-eighteenth-century history; Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell focuses on early nineteenth-century history
· A Declaration of the Rights of Magicians plot more strictly follows historically accurate events and explores concepts of oppression and colonialism; Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell diverges from historical events and is more interested in the relationship between its titular characters
· A Declaration of the Rights of Magicians has morally upright main characters but a darker tone; Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell has selfish main characters but a slightly lighter tone overall
Content Warnings
Graphic: Gun violence, Kidnapping, and Murder
Moderate: Mental illness, Racism, Sexism, Violence, Forced institutionalization, Alcohol, War, and Injury/Injury detail
Minor: Slavery, Antisemitism, and Religious bigotry
jessthanthree's review against another edition
dark
funny
mysterious
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
Content Warnings
Graphic: Body horror, Gore, Racism, Sexism, and War
Moderate: Death, Gun violence, Mental illness, Violence, Forced institutionalization, Kidnapping, and Murder
Minor: Slavery, Transphobia, and Death of parent
blacksphinx's review against another edition
adventurous
mysterious
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
If you are someone who is any level of dedicated to the occult arts, particularly those you learn extensively out of books like ancient astrology, grimoire magic, traditional witchcraft, or a reconstructionist polytheism, this book is for us. The society of magicians in York is so true to many groups and individuals I have met that I felt compelled to read the first page and a half out loud to the occultists and close friends of occultists I met up with while reading this book, who could not stop smiling and shaking their head at it. If you feel the same way about those opening paragraphs, it is worth your time to continue on with the entire tome.
What ultimately robbed it from being 5 Stars in my eyes is that it was too long! This book is fantastic but it didn't need to be over 800 pages. It is maddening how many times characters not sharing information with each other prevents the right action from occurring until hundreds of pages later. There was a point where I thought I was never going to finish this damn thing and I felt about it akin to a textbook I was reading for class. And then we finally get a large jolt of plot progression in the last ~150 so pages that was so satisfying it kept me from from going down to a flat 4 Stars.
Sidenote: this book contains period-typical racism, in both remarks made about Jewish people and one of our main PoV characters being a Black man in London in the early 1800's.
What ultimately robbed it from being 5 Stars in my eyes is that it was too long! This book is fantastic but it didn't need to be over 800 pages. It is maddening how many times characters not sharing information with each other prevents the right action from occurring until hundreds of pages later. There was a point where I thought I was never going to finish this damn thing and I felt about it akin to a textbook I was reading for class. And then we finally get a large jolt of plot progression in the last ~150 so pages that was so satisfying it kept me from from going down to a flat 4 Stars.
Sidenote: this book contains period-typical racism, in both remarks made about Jewish people and one of our main PoV characters being a Black man in London in the early 1800's.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Animal death, Death, Gun violence, Mental illness, Racism, Forced institutionalization, Blood, Kidnapping, Grief, Murder, Schizophrenia/Psychosis , War, Injury/Injury detail, and Classism
Moderate: Sexism, Slavery, and Alcohol
Minor: Fatphobia, Transphobia, and Antisemitism
athryn's review against another edition
adventurous
challenging
dark
funny
mysterious
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Put off reading this for a long time after buying it, the hazards of having so many books in ones TBR pile.
Glad I finally did, it's fantastic. Umberto Eco had an essay in the edition of The Name of the Rose I read that talked about creating a complete world when he wrote his books, and this book does the same thing. It feels like history, a fully realized world, not just what we know of England and the Napoleonic/Regency era, but all of the fantasy elements were well grounded. I love some of the digressions and whole stories going on in the footnotes (I think I sadly missed a couple before I realized that the Kindle was cutting them off,) which really added to the whole world.
Strange and Norrell are really just in the end a couple of nerds, aren't they?
Glad I finally did, it's fantastic. Umberto Eco had an essay in the edition of The Name of the Rose I read that talked about creating a complete world when he wrote his books, and this book does the same thing. It feels like history, a fully realized world, not just what we know of England and the Napoleonic/Regency era, but all of the fantasy elements were well grounded. I love some of the digressions and whole stories going on in the footnotes (I think I sadly missed a couple before I realized that the Kindle was cutting them off,) which really added to the whole world.
Strange and Norrell are really just in the end a couple of nerds, aren't they?
Content Warnings
Graphic: Kidnapping and Classism
Moderate: Death and Racism
pvbobrien's review against another edition
challenging
mysterious
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Content Warnings
Graphic: Racism, Murder, and War
Moderate: Animal death, Confinement, Death, Gun violence, Mental illness, Violence, Forced institutionalization, Kidnapping, and Grief
Minor: Sexism, Slavery, Blood, Fire/Fire injury, Colonisation, Injury/Injury detail, and Classism
kathleencoughlin's review against another edition
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.25
Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell is a cross between historical fiction and fantasy that follows these two men as they research magical history and practice and attempt to carve out a place for magic in England. I enjoyed reading about the eccentric magicians, but I think it's the secondary characters who really bring the story to life. The book is quite long, can be slow at times, and is heavily character-driven so I hesitate to recommend it to most, but for the right audience it is a delight. I loved the additional lore and context added through footnotes and thought it was a clever way to bring in more info and mirror the magical texts the characters might be reading.
Content Warnings
Graphic: Forced institutionalization, Kidnapping, and Schizophrenia/Psychosis
Moderate: Animal death, Sexism, Gaslighting, War, and Classism
Minor: Death of parent and Murder
bookcaptivated's review against another edition
adventurous
mysterious
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.75
Content Warnings
Graphic: Death and Murder
Moderate: Gun violence, Mental illness, Kidnapping, and Grief
Minor: Racism, Sexism, and Toxic friendship