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miraveta's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.75
Graphic: Self harm, Suicide, and Suicide attempt
Minor: Pedophilia and Sexual harassment
meowcoric's review against another edition
Graphic: Suicidal thoughts, Death, Child death, Suicide, and Suicide attempt
Moderate: Sexual harassment
lexigrce's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? No
4.0
Graphic: Alcoholism, Domestic abuse, Sexual assault, Drug use, Mental illness, Misogyny, Sexual content, Suicide, Child death, Alcohol, Child abuse, Grief, Self harm, Sexism, Body shaming, Death, Emotional abuse, Sexual harassment, Sexual violence, Suicidal thoughts, and Suicide attempt
mgoodrick's review against another edition
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Graphic: Suicide attempt and Suicide
Moderate: Confinement and Child abuse
Minor: Animal death, Sexual content, Sexual assault, Sexual harassment, Sexism, Abortion, Addiction, Adult/minor relationship, Alcohol, Alcoholism, Sexual violence, Blood, and Toxic relationship
cassbarker's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
4.0
Graphic: Suicide and Death
Moderate: Sexual harassment and Sexism
jenny_librarian's review against another edition
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
2.5
The writing itself is good, but thatâs about the only redeeming quality to this book. The rest is just men being⌠well, men. I get what the author wanted to achieve with this, but why it needed to be written in this way is beyond me.
I keep hoping the next âclassicâ I read is going to be better, and I keep being disappointed because those âclassicsâ were written by allocishet white men in a time women were seen as little more than property.
Graphic: Suicide, Grief, Stalking, Suicidal thoughts, Child death, Misogyny, and Suicide attempt
Moderate: Eating disorder, Medical content, Mental illness, Alcohol, Confinement, Racism, Rape, Stalking, Racial slurs, Self harm, Sexism, Sexual assault, Sexual harassment, and Sexual violence
Minor: Pregnancy, Alcoholism, Drug use, Pedophilia, Vomit, Blood, Car accident, Child abuse, Homophobia, and Infidelity
chaoticweevil's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Graphic: Child death, Sexual content, Emotional abuse, Grief, Sexual harassment, Suicide attempt, Child abuse, Death, Sexism, Stalking, Ableism, Racial slurs, Suicide, and Injury/Injury detail
Moderate: Alcohol, Eating disorder, Adult/minor relationship, Mental illness, and Blood
Minor: Vomit and Drug use
romyomola's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.0
Graphic: Eating disorder, Mental illness, Misogyny, Self harm, Suicide, and Suicide attempt
Moderate: Sexual harassment and Sexual assault
igmartinez's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.5
Graphic: Suicide, Suicide attempt, and Sexual harassment
devourfiction's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? N/A
- Strong character development? No
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
2.0
Can Jeffrey Eugenides write? Yes. Are his metaphors solid, shocking, haunting? Yes, yes, yes. Is this book full of ambition? Yes. Did I enjoy it? ...
As I read I couldn't help but think to myself: what is the point of treating the subject of girls' suicide and sexuality in this way? In this book, neighbourhood boys narrate their obsession with this group of girls only to find out they were unknowable, with this knowledge spurring their growth into men. Hold on, isn't this the manic pixie dream girl again? No, surely there is more to this - the writing seems so profound. Perhaps this book's racism and ableism (with Joe the R*****), praise of statutory rape as long as it happens to a boy (Trip, anyone?), and especially its constant objectification of underage girls is more than just that - maybe they are an attempt to reveal the insidiousness of the male gaze rather than promote it (the way Nabokov's Lolita had tried to with pedophilia)?
More and more red flags appeared. I didn't want to be a lazy reader, or one who wants to make certain subjects taboo for literature. As in the case of Lolita, I stand by the fact that literature can powerfully depict immoral actions. But in this case, to what end? My inability to read the novel charitably won over at a prolonged and graphic scene of one of the boys kissing one of the girls without her consent while not wanting to actually speak with her. There, I thought, is a clear statement of the grossness of these boys' treatment of girls. Except boom! The girl actually turned out to have liked it, forms a connection with him and wants to continue the relationship. Huh? So the point is that actually it's all good now, and you can just do whatever you want because you can't ever actually get into these girls' heads anyway? There is a thin line between depicting a perspective and supporting it, and I don't think Eugenides walked it well. Over the book, few of the boys' perceptions came under any kind of resistance. In a world full of the sexualisation and objectification of girls, where does that leave us?
I had a lot of hopes for this book. I was intrigued by the ambition of using solely outside male perspectives. I was hooked by the concept, in what it could reveal about sexual relationships and mental health. I was mesmerised by the skill of Eugenides's prose. But ultimately, it came down to this: either this book is full-on promoting rape culture and the like, or its 4D chess game is so complex that it is obscuring its own point and promoting rape culture anyway. And I just can't vibe with that, not even for literature's sake.Â
Graphic: Sexual harassment, Self harm, Suicide, and Suicide attempt
Moderate: Child abuse, Racism, Rape, Sexism, and Ableism