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taliesinrex's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
Jade herself is a wonderful character to see this world through. She is pessimistic and troubled, though not fully without hope somewhere in her mind - though it's not always hope for her OWN survival which I think adds a great depth and adds to the ingrained tragedy of her character. Her intense love for slasher films, finding them a source of comfort in the face of all the awful things that have happened to her, is at its core a very relatable story and one that I think contributes to her being such a fantastic POV character that you really want to see succeed even though the world around her is uncaring and downright hostile to her at times. I also really enjoyed the supporting characters, and her dynamics with characters who are sympathetic to her but unsure of how to truly help like Letha, Sheriff Hardy, and her teacher Mr. Holmes.
I will say this was my first time reading Stephen Graham Jones's work so I wasn't sure what to expect from his writing style. He definitely throws a lot at you, and his syntax is quite unlike a lot of other books I have read which took some getting used to. Once I started getting into the flow of his prose, though, it became really immersive and served as a great vehicle for the violence, tragedy, and humor throughout the book. Take heed that there's some heavy stuff revealed later on, and a whole lot of gore, but I'd definitely recommend this, especially to any horror movie fan.
Graphic: Gore, Violence, Suicide attempt, and Murder
Moderate: Child abuse, Incest, Racism, Sexual assault, Suicidal thoughts, and Sexual harassment
A traumatic childhood sexual assault is discussed, but not described in graphic detail. General mentions of racism/racist violence against Native Americans.thevampirecharlotte's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Graphic: Suicidal thoughts, Suicide, and Suicide attempt
Moderate: Child abuse and Rape
sammybee's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? It's complicated
2.5
Graphic: Gore, Self harm, Sexual assault, Sexual violence, Suicidal thoughts, Suicide, Blood, Suicide attempt, and Murder
torturedreadersdept's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Graphic: Alcoholism, Animal death, Body horror, Bullying, Child abuse, Cursing, Death, Emotional abuse, Gore, Mental illness, Rape, Self harm, Sexism, Sexual assault, Sexual violence, Suicidal thoughts, Violence, Forced institutionalization, Blood, Excrement, Vomit, Medical content, Suicide attempt, Death of parent, Murder, Fire/Fire injury, Cultural appropriation, Gaslighting, Alcohol, Dysphoria, and Injury/Injury detail
flexolo's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
Graphic: Addiction, Alcoholism, Animal death, Body horror, Child abuse, Death, Drug use, Gore, Incest, Mental illness, Pedophilia, Rape, Self harm, Sexual assault, Suicidal thoughts, Blood, Vomit, Suicide attempt, and Injury/Injury detail
ekw0036's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.25
I need to stare at the ceiling a bit over this. I won’t pretend this book is without flaws but it’s def the first true horror novel I’ve read in a while. It’s a cerebral, dark, devastating book and I can’t wait to read more from him
Graphic: Body horror, Death, Gore, Violence, Blood, and Murder
Moderate: Suicidal thoughts, Suicide, and Suicide attempt
Minor: Sexual assault and Sexual harassment
squisheebee_'s review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Plot
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
5.0
Graphic: Addiction, Alcoholism, Body horror, Mental illness, Toxic relationship, Blood, Suicide attempt, and Classism
Moderate: Animal death, Emotional abuse, Gore, Self harm, Suicidal thoughts, Suicide, Violence, Sexual harassment, and Injury/Injury detail
Minor: Confinement, Panic attacks/disorders, Rape, Sexual assault, Car accident, and Fire/Fire injury
falloutofmyactions's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.5
Graphic: Alcoholism, Body horror, Deadnaming, Death, Domestic abuse, Gore, Mental illness, Panic attacks/disorders, Self harm, Sexual assault, Suicidal thoughts, Violence, Blood, Suicide attempt, and Murder
Moderate: Incest, Pedophilia, and Rape
floralfox's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? No
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
2.25
Overall, I don't think the book worked for a several reasons:
1. There's a duality to this book. On one side, it's extremely slow. Most of the book takes place in the rambling, obsessive mind of 17-year-old Jade Daniels as she relates everything in her life to a slasher film. She's a janitor and sometimes a scene of her picking up trash and thinking about a slasher movie can cover 2-3 entire pages, but none of the information Jade turns over in her head—and none of the actions she's taking—are significant enough to warrant the meandering narrative. But on the other side, the book is trying to cover so many topics at once—threading together several complex topics and histories, where none of them are red herrings and they all get their moment to shine in the end. That means it's a story about repressed personal trauma and history, a story about centuries-old Native trauma, a story about poverty and gentrification, a story about grief and revenge, a ghost story, a Friday the 13th knockoff, a modern slasher, and more all wrapped up into one... except that... most of the time, it doesn't feel like <i>any</i> of them. It feels like a 17-year-old girl rambling in any interior monologue that never stops because she doesn't do anything and doesn't talk to anyone.
2. A lot of important details are embedded into long, rambling dialogue from other characters, such as interviews or tape recordings, and the author is FAITHFUL to the style of long, meandering talking styles where characters repeat themselves, trail off, backtrack, etc. And because they're usually faithfully transcribed, there's nothing to break up this wall of text in the story—no body language, no atmosphere, no nothing. It's easy to get lost in the details.
3. I had to re-read scenes and pages SO MANY TIMES because I'd realize that I wasn't taking anything in because it didn't seem like anything was happening. Then, I'd go back, reread it, and realize that most of the time, I'd been right, and I didn't need to waste my time. Couple that with a lot of times where I couldn't keep track of the passage of time, or thought dialogue between characters jumped around in a way that was confusing, or couldn't orient the characters in space or understand what they were doing with their bodies (or why they were doing it)... overall, there was simply a lot of confusion. It felt like really sloppy editing, both in the point of being able to follow the story, but also in thinking that this 400 page book probably could've been trimmed down to 200 pages.
4. For being in Jade's head SO much, there were important times where I didn't really understand her motivations or feelings. For instance, why WAS Jade compelled to keep the secret of her father's abuse? Obviously Letha, Hardy, and Holmes' approach to trying to get this information out of her was absolutely terrible—but Jade didn't actually engage with their questions internally. And because there were really no significant scenes of Jade with her father after that scene took place, when the truth WAS finally revealed, it didn't land with the weight it should've landed with. It all felt very fractured and distant. In another way, I had no idea what Jade envisioned for herself or her own safety when sh was convinced that a slasher was coming to Proofrock and that Letha was the final girl. Jade had already attempted suicide at this point in the book, but I didn't have a strong sense of whether she felt like that she'd be merely an observer on the periphery of the violence or a victim in her own right—or even how she felt about that possibility! It just felt like she didn't engage with it, even though she was also obsessing about it, but that lack of engagement didn't feel intentional. It felt like an oversight.
5. For someone who was constantly piecing together the plots of 100 different slasher movies and constantly coming up with motivations and theories as to the violence and murders happening in Proofrock, once Jade actually had most of the information after the blood bath in the final pages, she didn't thread ANY of it together. There ended up being not one, not two, not three, but FOUR different murderers in the scope of this book... AND supernatural elements, which felt like a genre-shift, AND one of the red herrings ended up having some validity to it. That is a LOT going on without any sort of clarity at the end. And truth be told, of these four murderers, one felt cheesy, one felt unrealistic, and two felt simply underdeveloped.
There were some good ideas here, but some bad execution. Mostly a matter of style and editing, IMO.
Graphic: Gore, Violence, and Murder
Moderate: Incest, Sexual assault, Suicidal thoughts, Vomit, Suicide attempt, and Fire/Fire injury
tesshersh's review against another edition
- Plot- or character-driven? A mix
- Strong character development? It's complicated
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? Yes
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.5
Spoiler for my other complaint:
Also: cannot recommend the audio book enough, cara gee was amazing
Graphic: Addiction, Alcoholism, Animal death, Body horror, Child abuse, Child death, Death, Domestic abuse, Gore, Incest, Pedophilia, Physical abuse, Racism, Rape, Self harm, Sexual assault, Suicidal thoughts, Suicide, Blood, Abortion, Suicide attempt, Death of parent, Murder, Colonisation, and Injury/Injury detail
HUGE trigger warnings - not just in the gore/violence you would associate with a thriller but for other content as well, please check content warnings before reading