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Государство by Plato

iluvmb96's review against another edition

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2.0

I read books 1&2 for the Great Books program I am reading. I enjoyed it a lot ore this time than in High School. Aristotle was also on the schedule for February, but he is not nearly as readable.

savetheoctopus's review against another edition

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4.0

every dystopian author’s wet dream

javiernge's review against another edition

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challenging informative reflective medium-paced

4.0

devilmann69's review against another edition

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informative reflective tense slow-paced

4.0

bubbajones1221's review against another edition

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3.0

Maybe not the most interesting read, but a useful look into the foundations of Western civilization.

chris18's review against another edition

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challenging informative mysterious slow-paced

3.75

yasemin2's review against another edition

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challenging informative reflective medium-paced

4.0

Binlerce yıl öncesine ait bir metinde analizlerin isabetliliğine ve derinliğine; kurgunun akıcılığına ve düğümlerin muhteşem çözülme anlarına, doğallığına bayıldım. 7,8,9 ve 10. Kitaplardaki sorgulamaların herbirinden çok keyif aldım; bu toplantılardan birinde oturduğumu ve ortamın rüzgarına kapılıp gittiğimi hissettim. İnsan olmanın ortak zaaflarının zamandan ve mekandan bağımsız olduğunu tekrar görmüş olmak kişisel ve ulusal deneyimlerime daha geniş bir perspektiften bakmam gerektiğini hatırlattı. Tabii ki Kölelik, Kadın&Çocuk hakları, kişisel özgürlükler hakkında eşitlikçi değerlerimizle çakışan, sadece o dönemin gerçekliğine özgü (zeitgeist) olması ön koşulu ile yaklaşabileceğimiz birçok söylem de mevcut. Bu fikirlerin ortaya atıldığı dönemin koşullarını baz almayı ve iptal kültürüne düşmeden o dönemin gerçekliği üzerinden konuşmamız gerektiğini düşünüyorum. Umberto Eco’nun tavsiye ettiği gibi  Batı Düşüncesinin ne anlama geldiğini,nasıl şekillendiğini ve bugününü de anlamak için Antik Yunan Felsefe Tarihinden başladım ve paralel olarak Devlet’i de okumak birçok taşın yerine oturmasını sağladı.

Çevirmenler Sabahattin Eyüboğlu ve  M.Ali Cimcoz muhteşem bir iş çıkarmış; sade bir dille bu eseri dilimize kazandırdıkları için çok mutluyum. 

shanyreader's review against another edition

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1.0

So glad that Socrates' kallipolis was never built. Dystopia, much? All in all, while I found Socrates the Boys to be pretty unlikable, you have to admit that this little book sure did inspire a ton of government systems--successes and failures alike. It's undeniable and since I like history, I have to admit that that was fascinating. It was interesting to compare the Kallipolis to the town in the Giver and see where dystopian books find so many of their themes. I will probably never read this book (and hopefully, if my college schedule allows me) or anything written by Plato again. Just really not my style.

methylblue's review against another edition

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slow-paced

3.75

You should get the penguin version of this book. I don't know if other version have them, but this is the one I have and its full of references to other works and essay which expand on pretty much every aspect of the Republic. And you better believe theres a lot to cover, this book manages to talk about pretty much everything. Society, constructing values, the influence of art, knowledge, education, even some proto-feminism. Also, its hard to spot, but this attack on the poets is quite poetic itself. Note the hierarchy established at the beggining and how that seeps into every part of the work. As the interlocutors of Socrates are convinced they move up in quality of soul, this can be seen in  their opinions. It's pretty beautiful all in all, for sure worth a read. 

cajunliterarybelle's review against another edition

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3.0

I read [b:Fireborne|53911554|Fireborne (The Aurelian Cycle, #1)|Rosaria Munda|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1602097635l/53911554._SX50_.jpg|58321478] and the subsequent books in the Aurelian Cycle by [a:Rosaria Munda|17320159|Rosaria Munda|https://images.gr-assets.com/authors/1544063020p2/17320159.jpg]. She promoted her series as Plato's Republic with dragons, and I needed to understand why. While I was already curious about Plato's book, that claim strengthened my curiosity. I was not disappointed, because I saw many connections to Munda's trilogy in Republic.

I listened to the classic, which was a great idea considering the entire work is written as a conversation between people about various ideas in society and government. The language was much easier to comprehend than I expected. Plato lived over 2,000 years ago, and yet he still captured much of what comprises life today. Granted, I was not in the headspace to think deeply about many of the concepts found here, but I was struck hard by those that resonated more close to home for me. I do think I could benefit from reading this again later in life when I have more time to devote to letting it all sink in.